They lost a 20/10 All-NBA gold medalist that was the engine to winning 50 games a year in order to acquire some assets that ended up being nothing in the big picture and struggling to even achieve a winning record ever since. That's not equal value.
Rudy Gobert has got to go
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sahlensguy
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That draft pick was more valuable than is being given credit for. Klay Thompson, Kawhi and Butler were all drafted later than Kanter. Just because we blew the pic, doesn't mean the pic wasn' valuable, because if used in the right way it was!
Yeah. But it wasn't. That's the whole point.
I'll give you an example where it worked out for the team losing a star:
The Grizzlies getting the rights to Marc Gasol in the Pau deal.
However, it is worth bearing in mind that nobody thought the Grizzlies were getting anything approaching equal value at the time.
The Grizzlies getting the rights to Marc Gasol in the Pau deal.
However, it is worth bearing in mind that nobody thought the Grizzlies were getting anything approaching equal value at the time.
Archie Moses
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The point is, you can trade your star and make it out on top. I'm not saying the Jazz killed it, but they got the better deal. Having a mediocre, and rapidly declining max player on the books vs what the Jazz got in return is something hardly anyone in the right mind would want.
In no universe can you convince me the Jazz losing their best player in over a decade and more than half of their games since is any kind of ****ing win.
sahlensguy
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That is only hindsight though. Initially it was valuable.
Draft picks are wishes, and you know the saying about wishes n ****.
Archie Moses
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Here's a better example of trading a star player and getting 2 in return. The Clips traded a declining star Baron Davis and a first rounder to the Cavs. The Cavs traded their declining star Mo Williams (he was still putting up 15 a game) and Jamario Moon. The first round pick ended up being Kyrie Irving.
Other trades that worked out better for one team by trading their star.
Jamison for Carter.
Wallace and Okur for draft pick that became Lillard.
Barkley for Horny
Mourning for Carter.
Webber for Richmond
Divac for Kobe
Chandler for Brand
Finley for Kidd
Billups for Iverson
The Melo to NY trade - Danilo, Chandler and picks
Allen for Payton.
Kaman, Gordon, Aminu, pick for Paul
We can’t trade Rudy for some superstar — name a team that’s trading their star for Rudy. What we can trade is Rudy for is a potential star or a draft pick. So we could trade him for a Porzingis, or a Jahlil Okafor or Dante Exum.
Or we could trade him for a couple solid role players which would be ****ing genius.
Or we could trade him for a couple solid role players which would be ****ing genius.
sahlensguy
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At the time the pic and Favors was a haul for Dwill who wanted out. That's the bottom line. Mismanaging those assets doesn't mean that we botched the trade. Those are two separate issues.
Archie Moses
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I don't need to convince you. It's commonly known as a terrible trade on the Nets part and win on the Jazz's. Google it.