Hate BYU, but don't hate Jimmer
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I am a BYU fan. Have been since I was a little kid. And I love what Jimmer did this year for the team and how good he was in collage. But unless he proves he can play at least passable Defense, Can actually get into the lane against an NBA quality defender and then find a guy that is open when the help comes, then I would like to see the Jazz take someone else. Just don't think we need an undersized 2/Slow PG that doesn't play D.
Gomretat, you're guilty of boxscore ballin'. If you watched him play at least a tiny bit then there would be no way you could call him a poor shooter. You're pretty much the only person on the planet making this desperation claim. Jacking up 40' treys and being guarded by 3 out of 5 Aztec's and still going off for 40? Your pumping D.O.A. silliness. Come on, Gamescore Gomre.
In other news, watching the Jimmer @ the combine was impressive. He has offensive moves that no other participating player came close to competing with. Watch the shooting drills after the 20 minute mark in ESPN's replay. The Jimmer has moves that not a single other participant could even wave a white flag at. He straight Hiroshima'd those poor suckers. And he impressed PLENTY from start to finish, top to bottom, in and out.
In other news, watching the Jimmer @ the combine was impressive. He has offensive moves that no other participating player came close to competing with. Watch the shooting drills after the 20 minute mark in ESPN's replay. The Jimmer has moves that not a single other participant could even wave a white flag at. He straight Hiroshima'd those poor suckers. And he impressed PLENTY from start to finish, top to bottom, in and out.
Stifle Tower
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I wonder...had the Jazz dropped to #7 or #8 would they have been tempted to take the Jimmer with their first pick?
It may be a "mute" point now. They're not going to take him at #3 and I still think he'll move into the top-10. If the Jazz somehow got Williams at #3 and Jimmer was there at #12, I wouldn't be upset with the pick. Fredette could be a good shooter off the bench, drafting him would sell a ton of tickets, and he'd be a Jazz player for life.
It may be a "mute" point now. They're not going to take him at #3 and I still think he'll move into the top-10. If the Jazz somehow got Williams at #3 and Jimmer was there at #12, I wouldn't be upset with the pick. Fredette could be a good shooter off the bench, drafting him would sell a ton of tickets, and he'd be a Jazz player for life.
gomretat
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So I am guessing there is either a literacy issue or an attention span problem. Never heard or read anyone call him a poor shooter. All I have done is state facts. I clearly address his 40 footers. And I am clear that he is a good shooter. You may want to re-read what I said and then if you have an answer, be happy to respond.
gomretat
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Well said. Be careful being objective on this board - it creates a bit of a stir from the zealots. By the way, I am a BYU alum, just didn't drink the kool-aid.
So if you were going to buy a car would you only look at the stats?
If it was me I would look at the car, sit in it, start it up, take it for a test drive, have a mechanic check out the motor.
JC was good, but if you watch their games you can see how Jimmer set himself apart from JC. Get out of boxscoreland, and use your eyes.
Jimmer shot well, but he also set himself apart in his ball handling, his splitting traps and doubles, driving the lanes, finishing in traffic, having a name like Jimmer, and in starting Jimmermania with his "no big deal" almost half court shot on the Utes.
Jimmer>>>>Chuck Norris>>>>>JC Carroll
green
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OK Jimmer lovers, let me ask you this. If you draft Jimmer at 12, you are drafting him to be your backup PG/spark off the bench forever. Nobody thinks he can play 30 mins in the NBA, nobody. So, at 12 you are picking a backup PG. Why would you pick Jimmer over Nolan Smith? Jimmer is a better shooter, that is a fact. But Smith is a better defender, passer, scores just as efficiently as Jimmer and has actually run an offense before and done all of this against much, MUCH better competition. Who would be the better career backup pg?
That is why Jimmer will slide out of the lottery. When you compare him head to head vs Singleton, vs Thompson, etc, he is always the second option.
That is why Jimmer will slide out of the lottery. When you compare him head to head vs Singleton, vs Thompson, etc, he is always the second option.
You must not be from around here. We BYU fans believe that The Jimmer can, and will, average 49+ minutes per game.
green
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Repped. Nice, made me laugh.
BENTLEY
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I like Nolan Smith. If I'm being subjective I pick Fredette, but Nolan Smith if I'm being objective.
Betting on Fredette is like betting on Tebow. You want him to succeed, but you don't think so. But then you think maybe he will succeed just because he's so likable. I hope he does. And if he does I want him on my team. But I'm not so sure he will.
So it's a matter of blowing the 12th pick on the less than confident chance Fredette can succeed in the NBA. I dunno. But after reading some of BillyShelby's posts I'm souring on Singleton. BUT I think Biyombo could slip to 12 - and I'd rather bet on him than Fredette. - sorry Jimmer. I'm only willing to gamble on you if someone else gambles on Biyombo first.
Betting on Fredette is like betting on Tebow. You want him to succeed, but you don't think so. But then you think maybe he will succeed just because he's so likable. I hope he does. And if he does I want him on my team. But I'm not so sure he will.
So it's a matter of blowing the 12th pick on the less than confident chance Fredette can succeed in the NBA. I dunno. But after reading some of BillyShelby's posts I'm souring on Singleton. BUT I think Biyombo could slip to 12 - and I'd rather bet on him than Fredette. - sorry Jimmer. I'm only willing to gamble on you if someone else gambles on Biyombo first.