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Sloanfeld

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I'm bored so I'm going to rant. I've read a few things lately that don't sit well with me. Plus, my opinions are important. Look at this crap:

Like most teenage girls, sophomore Jackie Genovese, 16, of New Jersey, was so excited to attend the prom with her boyfriend that she made plans and purchased her perfect prom dress early.

But tragedy struck last week when her boyfriend of two years was killed in a car accident, MyFoxNY reported.

James Volpe, 17, was killed in a two-car crash on the way home from a baseball team dinner on May 13, only a few weeks away from graduation.

Jackie bought her $1,200 dress at Freehold's Diane and Co., also known for its popular Oxygen show, "Dress Coutoure."

She requested a refund for her dress so she could help pay for her boyfriend's funeral. Jackie's mom approached the owners of the store for the refund, which is against store policy. Instead they offered credit. But Jackie's mom said when she showed up to bring the dress back, they were nasty and unsympathetic.

Now her friends have started a Facebook page to call on boycotting the dress store.

Diane and Co. denies the accusations. Over the phone, owners said "this terrible tragic situation has been spun out of control. It's not a matter of being vicious or uncompassionate, but we are faced with tragedy all the time. And we weren't given a chance to rectify the situation."

Jackie is now left with the $1,200 store credit, which she is unsure she will ever use.

Diane and Co. is standing firm on the no refund policy, but has offered to make a donation to a memorial set up in James name.


https://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/05/21/nj-teen-seeks-prom-dress-refund-pay-boyfriends-funeral/

Listen, that's sad and all about the accident but LIFE'S NOT FAIR. I've lost money on investments and had buyer's remorse after I've bought things before and I couldn't undo that. And if you spent $1,200 on a dress that you'll probably wear only once and now can't contribute to the funeral then maybe you shouldn't be buying a $1,200 dress in the first place.

So now these clowns all start a Facebook group to rally behind this, which seems to be the norm for these entitlement mentality brats anymore. First of all, she's putting the store in a rough position because they have a no refund policy which some people feel she is exempt from. And now all these brats are giving the store bad publicity because of all the LEMMINGS that can't think for themselves and think the store owes her something. Life's not fair dammit.

Exhibit 2, and I'm sure you've all heard of this. This kid who got suspended for hanging his prom invitation on the school. It didn't seem like the kid was all bummed out about it, but everyone else thought he was exempt from the rules. The school policy was anybody suspended after April 1 can't go to the prom. Unfortunately the principal caved, for what reason I don't know, and now he can go. Again, a policy was in place and people think he's exempt from it?

CONCORD, N.H. -- A New Hampshire woman has spoken of her outrage after her 13-year-old daughter was suspended from school over a Facebook post in which said she wished Usama bin Laden killed her math teacher, WCVB-TV reported Wednesday.

Kimberly Dell'isola's daughter was suspended for five days from Rundlett Middle School in Concord after posting the comment about the Al Qaeda leader, who was shot dead when U.S. Navy SEALs stormed his Pakistan compound on May 2.

Dell'isola said she agreed that the post was offensive but thought the punishment was extreme and her daughter was entitled to free speech.

"In hindsight, she's mortified that she said that, but she's a 13-year-old kid," Dell'isola said.

Dell'isola said she usually monitors her daughter's use of the social networking website but found out about the post when she received a phone call from the school's principal. She said a parent of one of the girl's friends reported the comment.

The concerned mother was urging the school to remove her daughter from class and give her a private math tutor instead of the suspension.

"You are denying her an education based on something she did at home. That's my business, not your business," Dell'isola said.

Principal Tom Sica refused to comment due to student privacy rights.


https://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/05/19/outrage-girl-suspended-school-bin-laden-facebook-post/

Now I don't know what the school laws are but I beleive that some schools have an out of school conduct policy of some sort, at least mine did but it wasn't a public school. You can tell this princess attends public school though. People in my school weren't that stupid. After Columbuine happened and I was in seventh grade, the teachers made us aware of a zero tolerance policy. And it's becoming very common to see people in the news post something stupid on facebook and get their employment terminated because of it. When will these people learn their lesson already?

Oh and it's so outrageous that she is suspended, says the mother. Also note the absence of a father in this article. Man, some of these parents think their brats are little angels. Learn your lesson and get over it. The demagoguing on facebook is ridiculous and just brainwashing these brats.
 
People have always been stupid. Facebook having 600 million users only magnifies it and makes being stupid easier for them.

If my kid said something stupid like wanting a terrorist to kill her teacher I would agree she probably needed to be suspended. Needs to learn early on free speech is not freedom of the consequences that may result from saying something stupid.
 
Store policy > Humanity > Sloanfail
 
People have always been stupid. Facebook having 600 million users only magnifies it and makes being stupid easier for them.

If my kid said something stupid like wanting a terrorist to kill her teacher I would agree she probably needed to be suspended. Needs to learn early on free speech is not freedom of the consequences that may result from saying something stupid.

This.
 
Sorry, just JazzFanz rep power.
 
Damn Sloanfeld you're a real grouch...

The way I understand it, there are a set of rules and principles in place, which keep the day to day process moving smoothly. Then there are extenuating circumstances.

How the extenuating circumstances are handled is how you judge the integrity of a business.
 
Damn Sloanfeld you're a real grouch...

The way I understand it, there are a set of rules and principles in place, which keep the day to day process moving smoothly. Then there are extenuating circumstances.

How the extenuating circumstances are handled is how you judge the integrity of a business.

Repped.
 
Actually I much prefer it when people start threads on message boards complaining about decisions they don't like.
 
Listen, that's sad and all about the accident but LIFE'S NOT FAIR. I've lost money on investments and had buyer's remorse after I've bought things before and I couldn't undo that. And if you spent $1,200 on a dress that you'll probably wear only once and now can't contribute to the funeral then maybe you shouldn't be buying a $1,200 dress in the first place.

So now these clowns all start a Facebook group to rally behind this, which seems to be the norm for these entitlement mentality brats anymore. First of all, she's putting the store in a rough position because they have a no refund policy which some people feel she is exempt from. And now all these brats are giving the store bad publicity because of all the LEMMINGS that can't think for themselves and think the store owes her something. Life's not fair dammit.


Irrelevant. Businesses make decisions all the time to adjust their store policies for public relations reasons. If the store wants to stand by their policy and potentially alienate their customer base, they can do so. Conversely, if the majority of their customer base feels the boycott is overboard the store won't get hurt too much and may even get some sympathy business.

Personally, I pretty much have a negative opinion about a business that has a no refund policy in general, although in this case the store could have a legitimate reason for not having one in the case of an item they may not be able to sell back, which wouldn't shock me when dealing with a $1,200 dress. Though I wonder why they would be ok with offering store credit as they would still lose much of their bottom line.

Now I don't know what the school laws are but I beleive that some schools have an out of school conduct policy of some sort, at least mine did but it wasn't a public school. You can tell this princess attends public school though. People in my school weren't that stupid. After Columbuine happened and I was in seventh grade, the teachers made us aware of a zero tolerance policy. And it's becoming very common to see people in the news post something stupid on facebook and get their employment terminated because of it. When will these people learn their lesson already?

In this case I'm 100% behind the kid. Only absolute total idiots believe in No Tolerance policies, and only supremely moronic jackasses defend them. Which is why I'm not shocked that you decided to do so (even with your oh so totally super duper awesome private school primary education, like anyone who is an adult gives a flying **** about whether you attended public or private middle school), especially when you decide to equate the stupid post of a stupid 13 year old with the stupid post of an adult.
 
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People have always been stupid. Facebook having 600 million users only magnifies it and makes being stupid easier for them.

If my kid said something stupid like wanting a terrorist to kill her teacher I would agree she probably needed to be suspended. Needs to learn early on free speech is not freedom of the consequences that may result from saying something stupid.

In 4th grade I wrote "F Mrs. Skeehan" (who was my 4th grade teacher) on the inside of my book. Some student ratted me out and I had to write her an apology letter. I don't know why that wouldn't be appropriate here. I also have no idea why schools look at suspensions as their first line of disciplinary action. As someone who hated going to school it wasn't even a real punishment when I got suspended (other than the punishment I received at home for getting suspended. I do remember thinking "hey I may be grounded but at least I don't have to be at school for a few days"). Plus it puts a hardship on the parent(s) who have to deal with their kid not being there, and it possibly sets the kid behind in school which doesn't seem to have many positive consequences down the road.

Maybe I'm pretty insensitive to things, but if I were a teacher and some dumb 13 year old wrote that they wished a terrorist would kill me I would just roll my eyes at it. And in this case it was a parent of a friend who ratted the kid out to the school. Sheesh, what ever happened to contacting the kid's parents?
 
In 4th grade I wrote "F Mrs. Skeehan" (who was my 4th grade teacher) on the inside of my book. Some student ratted me out and I had to write her an apology letter. I don't know why that wouldn't be appropriate here. I also have no idea why schools look at suspensions as their first line of disciplinary action. As someone who hated going to school it wasn't even a real punishment when I got suspended (other than the punishment I received at home for getting suspended. I do remember thinking "hey I may be grounded but at least I don't have to be at school for a few days"). Plus it puts a hardship on the parent(s) who have to deal with their kid not being there, and it possibly sets the kid behind in school which doesn't seem to have many positive consequences down the road.

Maybe I'm pretty insensitive to things, but if I were a teacher and some dumb 13 year old wrote that they wished a terrorist would kill me I would just roll my eyes at it. And in this case it was a parent of a friend who ratted the kid out to the school. Sheesh, what ever happened to contacting the kid's parents?

Not saying suspension was the only appropriate punishment for that. Just saying I wouldn't disagree with it if the school felt like it was. Apology letter is definitely a good idea suspended or not suspended. We went to school in a different age. We didn't have Facebook when we were in middle school. Who knows how many kids saw that. If she gets suspended and they make her an example of what happens when you do dumb stuff like that it probably would be more effective in discouraging others from doing it.
 
Irrelevant. Businesses make decisions all the time to adjust their store policies for public relations reasons. If the store wants to stand by their policy and potentially alienate their customer base, they can do so. Conversely, if the majority of their customer base feels the boycott is overboard the store won't get hurt too much and may even get some sympathy business.

The dress was off the shelf for a while and could have been sold to somebody else. Why should they have to take the hit? Unfortunately it might be in their best interest to do so because some crybabies will boycott the store. An injustice indeed.

Personally, I pretty much have a negative opinion about a business that has a no refund policy in general

Well the girl obviously didn't at first.

(even with your oh so totally super duper awesome private school primary education, like anyone who is an adult gives a flying **** about whether you attended public or private middle school)

Non-public school educated people are simply the best. I'm extremely bitter that my family and I have to pay taxes for all these public school degenerates to learn nothing, use drugs, get free breakfast and lunch, get pregnant, and spread STD's. And then some of these people even FAIL..How can you possibly fail public school? My parents both worked hard and had to shell out money for everything. I can't speak for the whole country, but that's how it is in my area. In my county, the public school in my city always has the lowest scores when they post them in the newspaper. I laugh. I'm extremely proud to have a family that cared so much about my sibling and I and chose not to send me to public school. What a complete ********. Just understand Nate, that I can't speak for the whole country, I've only lived in one area, but it's disgusting where I live.
 
Someone call SloanFail and tell him that BeanClown somehow hacked into his computer and is posting under his name!
 
The dress was off the shelf for a while and could have been sold to somebody else. Why should they have to take the hit? Unfortunately it might be in their best interest to do so because some crybabies will boycott the store. An injustice indeed.
Businesses are filled with plenty of injustices and justices. It's all part of the cost of doing business. For every dress store getting hosed by a bad PR boycott there is an auto dealership selling worthless warrenties to customers and refusing to honor them because of the burried legal crap in them.[/quote]

Non-public school educated people are simply the best. I'm extremely bitter that my family and I have to pay taxes for all these public school degenerates to learn nothing, use drugs, get free breakfast and lunch, get pregnant, and spread STD's. And then some of these people even FAIL..How can you possibly fail public school? My parents both worked hard and had to shell out money for everything. I can't speak for the whole country, but that's how it is in my area. In my county, the public school in my city always has the lowest scores when they post them in the newspaper. I laugh. I'm extremely proud to have a family that cared so much about my sibling and I and chose not to send me to public school. What a complete ********. Just understand Nate, that I can't speak for the whole country, I've only lived in one area, but it's disgusting where I live.

Private education is great when it comes at the secondary level, and I would tout it to the world if I received a degree from a prestigious private university. Private education at the primary level? Who gives a ****. It's great in a sense that it may put you in a better position to go to a better university, but once you are past that stage it is meaningless. A person with a degree from the lowliest public university like Arizona State has much more room to pound their chest over someone who went to a private high school.
 
Non-public school educated people are simply the best. I'm extremely bitter that my family and I have to pay taxes for all these public school degenerates to learn nothing, use drugs, get free breakfast and lunch, get pregnant, and spread STD's. And then some of these people even FAIL..How can you possibly fail public school? My parents both worked hard and had to shell out money for everything. I can't speak for the whole country, but that's how it is in my area. In my county, the public school in my city always has the lowest scores when they post them in the newspaper. I laugh. I'm extremely proud to have a family that cared so much about my sibling and I and chose not to send me to public school. What a complete ********. Just understand Nate, that I can't speak for the whole country, I've only lived in one area, but it's disgusting where I live.

so which came first - the chicken, or the egg?
 
The chicken-egg-laying feathered lizard came first.
 
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