So then, not a star.
Utah Trade Deadline Discussion
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So then, not a star.
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Patrick Patterson and Kyle singler... I’d do it. Maybe sub in AA for 2 pat... I think they are crazy though. Patterson has been bad but he’s coming off surgery and is a really functional player on a reasonable deal.
A star like all the big rigs out there won't happen. You won't be able to trade for the number one option on any team. By star, I mean any reliable starter who can perform night in and night out and who mesh well with Gobert and Mitchell. That's hard to find, for all we know, that third guy we are looking for could already by on our team. We are still really young, with some pretty solid talent without any big names.
But look, when have the Jazz every traded for a real big time star?
Take that deal and run. It gives you insurance at the 4 if you don’t land anyone next summer. Patterson and Jerebko? We’d be fine.
LoPo
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I don't think Patterson would be involved. Abrines and Singler are extremely expendable. If we added Patterson, we probably don't get anything back in terms of draft compensation.
At this point, do the Jazz trade for anything? Not just because we've been hot lately, but approaching this trade deadline, there are far more sellers than buyers right now. Would we even get an upgrade if we trade the players we are talking about who should be traded? At this point, all I see is if we trade, its either to get a young asset/pick, or we are trying to get something in return for a departing free agent.
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I think we would be absolutely silly if we passed on any draft compensation at all for Burks. O'Neale has rendered Burks all but worthless unfortunately. If we bring back similar contracts and a future draft pick, even heavily protected, it's worth it.
As for other guys, I just don't know. It's really hard to know. One thing is certain - Hood is one of the best players being shopped. His situation is better than Jordan, Lou Williams, Bradley, Tyreke Evans all of those guys because he's younger and the team getting him will have his restricted free agent rights. Those other guys are unrestricted free agents. A team might have their Bird Rights, but that doesn't mean they have a really good chance to keep them.
I agree. O'Neale has surprised all of us, which has been awesome to watch, and it has put Burks in an awkward spot. I love Burks, but his 10 Million he is getting paid makes you squirm a little bit. I wouldn't be opposed to getting some decent pick for Burks.
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If all it took to get Porter was to take Gortat, I would do that all day long. Porter next to Hobert is sick. Unless I read your post wrong, which is possible.
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I would do Abrines and Singler. I just think most nights AB is tough to play. Abrines stretches the floor and Singler could be stretched or waived in the offseason.
Bawse Dawg
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Just sign LeBron this offseason.
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At this point, I'd try to dump Burks so that we can make a run at one of the RFA guys.
The Jazz decide not to make a move because of the expectation that there won't be a lot of money available in free agency and we can keep our guys for cheap. Free agency comes and as always teams find a way to throw ridiculous money at players. Someone throws 17-20 mill per at Hood, maybe more. The Jazz feel obligated to match and not lose another player. The contract becomes a large albatross for the entirety of Rudy's prime.
^^^ My worst fear.
^^^ My worst fear.
Bawse Dawg
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If the Lakers had the Jazz roster then I’d be 99% sure that LeBron would go to LA this offseason. But Utah... I’m only 70% sure.
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Trade Burks and Johnson for any 2nd rounder you can get.
Trade Hood: I'm sure a really good pick can be attained. He's a RFA, young and when he's hot he's HOT. GMs fall in love with that.
Keep Favors: supposedly there is no interest from other teams. I say we end up keeping him at a good price.
Keep Rubio, O'Neale, Udoh, Jerebko, Sefolosha, etc.
You get to the next draft with a good amount of draft picks and then reassess the situation.
Trade Hood: I'm sure a really good pick can be attained. He's a RFA, young and when he's hot he's HOT. GMs fall in love with that.
Keep Favors: supposedly there is no interest from other teams. I say we end up keeping him at a good price.
Keep Rubio, O'Neale, Udoh, Jerebko, Sefolosha, etc.
You get to the next draft with a good amount of draft picks and then reassess the situation.
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I think we can improve just by not playing Joe Johnson and cutting the guy loose.
I need something good to move Hood and Favs at this point. I'd sell AB for expirings or partially expirings. Or like just something different... maybe Jared Dudley or Garrett Temple. Like I'd send a second round pick with AB for Temple right now... he isn't owed as much and is a functional/reliable rotation guy.
I need something good to move Hood and Favs at this point. I'd sell AB for expirings or partially expirings. Or like just something different... maybe Jared Dudley or Garrett Temple. Like I'd send a second round pick with AB for Temple right now... he isn't owed as much and is a functional/reliable rotation guy.
Looking at the 2018 free agency class, I think most of the big names will end up staying right where they are knowing full well the lack of money available.
KD- I think he opts in to his player option
LeBron- I think he opts in to his player option. Unless he's willing to go to a different contender for cheap.
PG- I think he opts in to his player option
Melo- The Thunder pick up his team option
Boogie- I think he re-signs in NO
CP3- Stays in Houston
Clint Capela- Stays in Houston
DeAndre Jordan and Isaiah Thomas *could move elsewhere.
But I see the bulk of the available free agency money being thrown at guys like Aaron Gordon, Jabari Parker, RODNEY HOOD, and others in like that second tier of free agency.
KD- I think he opts in to his player option
LeBron- I think he opts in to his player option. Unless he's willing to go to a different contender for cheap.
PG- I think he opts in to his player option
Melo- The Thunder pick up his team option
Boogie- I think he re-signs in NO
CP3- Stays in Houston
Clint Capela- Stays in Houston
DeAndre Jordan and Isaiah Thomas *could move elsewhere.
But I see the bulk of the available free agency money being thrown at guys like Aaron Gordon, Jabari Parker, RODNEY HOOD, and others in like that second tier of free agency.
RandyForRubio
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If Rubio continues to play the way he has for that length of time, he's getting a max extension.
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Very insightful. edit: No GM in their right mind would extend Rubio right now after his season so far. What I'm talking about is a minimum I think will sway DL to re-sign him for around his current contract or higher.
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