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Possible move into playoff position - Jazz at Grizzlies - 3/9/2018 6:00 pm MST

Thee jazz fan said:
Two things first, why are we talking about health care here?

This is how the world works. They don't just hand out meds, even if it isn't addicting or whatever, and everyone wants to get paid. And damn, you pay a 25$ co-pay. Mine is 10$ for that type of visit. My condolences :D
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Idk, i feel like it would be like if your batteries in your flashlight died and you knew you needed new batteries but you couldn't buy new batteries until you paid a 25 dollar fee first for someone to look at your flashlight and tell you need to buy new batteries. That wouldn't make sense to me.
And 25 dollars might not seem like much to some people but it is to me. That 25 dollar co pay quite often keeps me from going to the doctor when i maybe really need to.
 
Jack Strop said:
What? You want him taking 2's? Probably too few shots overall. He had the hot hand. Gobert rarely has decent games against Gasol offensively. IMO, Jazz just tried to force it into Rudy too much. And he was Fumbleina tonight. Sometimes Gobert just drives me crazy when he tries to create shots.

It may have been an ugly game, but the Jazz made their shots and defended down the stretch. This was a game that could have turned into a loss earlier in the season.
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All that I meant is that ideally we probably don't want Jae taking 11 threes a game. It was fine last night though. He was making them so the Jazz rode the hot hand. It was good that he was making them too because Donovan and Rudy were both struggling offensively.
 
framer said:
You paid a share your doctor's insurance premium in case you are deathly allergic to amoxicillin, you die, then your wife sues his practice for millions. (My daughter is deathly allergic to amoxicillin, doctor caught it really early, she didn't die.)

If they screw up your medical care in Canada, you can sue the system for all its worth, right?
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Being able to sue people who cause you harm directly or through negligence is 100000% the way things should work. People who criticise the ability to be compensated for harm others cause you blow my ****ing mind.

This game thread...
 
Hitting the ol’ delete button on the dvr now, I don’t think I could ever be desperate enough to watch this game again.
I’m glad the Jazz got the win, but what an ugly game to watch.


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fishonjazz said:
Idk, i feel like it would be like if your batteries in your flashlight died and you knew you needed new batteries but you couldn't buy new batteries until you paid a 25 dollar fee first for someone to look at your flashlight and tell you need to buy new batteries. That wouldn't make sense to me.
And 25 dollars might not seem like much to some people but it is to me. That 25 dollar co pay quite often keeps me from going to the doctor when i maybe really need to.
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U missed my point that these thieves want to get paid. Lol


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Bulletproof said:
Being able to sue people who cause you harm directly or through negligence is 100000% the way things should work. People who criticise the ability to be compensated for harm others cause you blow my ****ing mind.

This game thread...
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Agreed, but a few things:

1. People sue based on outcomes. Sometimes you can provide the best care and still get a bad outcome.
2. If you want to reserve the right to sue for multiple millions, you will drive up the cost of care substantially. It's a choice we make as a society. You get better care, but it is much more expensive.
3. If you have government run healthcare, your ability to sue "outside of the system" in open court, is severely limited.
4. Memphis season ticket holders should have the right to sue for entertainment malpractice.
 
Bulletproof said:
It's not really an individual using them too much, it's thousands of individuals being prescribed them and all of them taking 1/3 to 1/2 the amount that was prescribed because they started feeling better or just forgot.

If you use antibiotics you want to kill all the bacteria you're trying to kill. If you kill 80-90% of it the bacteria leftover are the ones that are more resistant to that antibiotic, and so if that heartier segment of the bacterial infection spreads it become more difficult to treat with antibiotics.
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Underconsumption is the problem.

My issue with this hypothesis is purely statistical. It's not thousands of people it's several billions. By those numbers, super bugs are going to form amoxicillin restance regardless of a doctor prescribing an antibiotic or not.

We could have a system where you are educated by the pharmacy that you must take the entire duration even if you feel better for certain infections like strep throat. Super bugs aren't going to form any faster in overuse situations since we all have an immune system.

Maybe Dr. Dala can correct me on this if I'm wrong.
 
framer said:
Agreed, but a few things:

1. People sue based on outcomes. Sometimes you can provide the best care and still get a bad outcome.
2. If you want to reserve the right to sue for multiple millions, you will drive up the cost of care substantially. It's a choice we make as a society. You get better care, but it is much more expensive.
3. If you have government run healthcare, your ability to sue "outside of the system" in open court, is severely limited.
4. Memphis season ticket holders should have the right to sue for entertainment malpractice.
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Entertainment malpractice and gross negligence of their record.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
My Canadian relatives who travel to the US for healthcare do not agree with you.
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the overwhelming body of evidence does not agree with your anecdotes. As the old adage goes, facts > one's opinion.

As for anecdotes-- in 24 years of life, I have yet to come across a friend, relative, peer, or friend's friend, friend's parent, patient (etc.) who has left Canada to go seek US healthcare. The only thing I can think of is someone leaving Canada in order to seek a late-term abortion-- not even sure if she went to the United States. That is genuinely, and seriously it. You have been completely fooled by propaganda. Private healthcare is a ****ing disaster.

Instead, I have heard many instances of the opposite-- namely, Canadians returning home early from Arizona after their health deteriorates.
 
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