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NUMBERICA said:
Star players? How and why do the Jazz get one of those if we're so set?

All I am saying is we're not there (and it's harder to acquire talent when your team is already good). And to look at likelihoods. To think that most 27th and 13th picks turn into Gobert and Mitchell is absurd at best.

We're not there, and there's no cake if the Jazz need to add an all-star.
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I agreed that we are not there. Where I disagree is saying that we are far away. Getting a Lebron, harden, steph, etc is the hardest part of being a contender. I believe we already have that player so the hardest part is done. Then you need a couple other stars. Gobert is definitely one. Need a good coach/system. Got that. We have most of the ingredients necessary. We are already a top 5/6/7 team in the league with our 2 best players till getting better.
I think we are closer than you. Agree to disagree. (Would be funny if we got to the conference finals this year and you still didn’t think we were close)
 
FarrakhanJazzFan said:
If the Jazz end up at 49-33 or 48-34, I don't see any scenario where Utah doesn't have to play OKC. In a three and four way tiebreakers involving Portland and OKC, OKC comes out on bottom every time because they're 0-4 against Portland and only 2-2 against the Spurs and 1-2 against the Pelicans. There's a couple scenarios where the Jazz still end up at the 3 seed even if they drop a game and beat Portland, but OKC still lingers at #6. If there's a 3-way tie with Utah, OKC and NO/SA, Utah is at #5 and OKC at #4. Unless the Jazz finish 47-35, OKC is by far the most likely opponent. This is all assuming OKC wins their last two games, I think that's a really solid assumption.

The only scenario I see where we don't play OKC (if we end up with 49 wins) is if NO loses to the Clippers and then beats San Antonio. At that point we would play either Minnesota or New Orleans depending on what happens with Denver's last two games.

OKC loses a ton of tiebreakers vs San Antonio, New Orleans and Portland. That gets flipped around with three way tiebreakers that involve Utah instead of Portland.
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I agree with this. If the Jazz win out and get the 3 seed, Portland drops to 4, SA or NOLA ends up in a tie with OKC, wins the tie-breaker and drops OKC to 6th.

If Utah loses a game and falls into a tie with OKC and either SA or NOLA, OKC will be 4th, the Jazz 5th and the other team 6th due to tie-breakers.

The only other scenario is that Utah loses two games, falls below OKC and either SA or NOLA, and takes the 6th seed, playing Podtland in the first round.

Again, this assumes OKC wins its final two games. Would be nice if Miami bears them.

So the likely scenarios are:

- Jazz (3) have home court against OKC (6)
- Jazz (5) open at OKC (4)
- Jazz (6) open at Portland (3)

...unless OKC loses another game.
 
To be a real contender, the Jazz need another 30-pt scorer at one of the forward positions. The Ingles/Crowder/Favors rotation doesn't make us a contender. Plus, we're likely going to lose Favors in the offseason.
 
Catchall said:
To be a real contender, the Jazz need another 30-pt scorer at one of the forward positions. The Ingles/Crowder/Favors rotation doesn't make us a contender. Plus, we're likely going to lose Favors in the offseason.
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A 30 ppl scorer lol. There is only 1 of those in the entire NBA and he isn’t a forward. The Beard is the only 30 point scorer in the entire league.

Did you mean 20 Ppg?
 
Lakers v Jazz is the only important game for the playoff race today.

If the Jazz win they clinch the playoffs and will be 1 game out of 3rd.

Jazz are coming for you Blazers!! Choo choo!!!
 
Stoked said:
Lakers v Jazz is the only important game for the playoff race today.

If the Jazz win they clinch the playoffs and will be 1 game out of 3rd.

Jazz are coming for you Blazers!! Choo choo!!!
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Jazz control their playoff destiny.

Regardless of first round matchup possibilities, I can guarantee you that they want that #3 seed.

Some might be scared of who they might draw in the first round, but Quin and the players are not. They’re hungry to prove that they are contenders. Going to have to go through both Golden State and Houston to make the finals anyways.

Getting to the 3rd seed would be a tremendous accomplishment. Huge statement moving forward - especially to potential free agents who might look at Utah as a team on the cusp.

They aren’t afraid of any team, and will relish the underdog role in the playoffs. Health is the #1 factor in how likely they are to compete and advance.
 
@Saint Cy of JFC

OK I've cross referenced the info from here: https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/SAS/all_star.html and here :
http://www.landofbasketball.com/yearbyyear/1998_1999_playoffs_brackets.htm

If I'm not mistaken, San Antonio Spurs were 1st seed and became champions in 1998-1999 NBA Playoffs and they had no All-Stars that year.


Needless to say, I've stopped looking after it since no topping that one.

Edit: I forgot that that was the L/O season. Will keep digging.
BTW that season already had no All Star games but had an All NBA team which included Duncan so Spurs cannot be an example for us.

Moving on...

2001-2002 season: 2nd seed in East: Pistons. No All Stars.
 
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