Men are pigs

[MVP]

but then there is one more thing. I bet only few women would find this guy attractive. And yet I would bet he banged more women than all Jazzfanz guys here combined.

 

[One Brow]

Long story short here, it turns out biologically-speaking that men are attracted to youthful beauty and women are attracted to wealth and power (to a certain point). So it's not uncommon to see older, wealthy and powerful men dating young and attractive women and vice versa. Men who are too old and truly unattractive, however, are just being played for their money.

So, biologically speaking, women are attracted to a feature that is not biological?

 

[idestroyedthetoilet]

So, biologically speaking, women are attracted to a feature that is not biological?

The ability to obtain wealth, power, be a leader or make a woman laugh aren't biological traits?

Sexual dimorphism and attraction aren't limited purely to physical traits.

 

[One Brow]

The ability to obtain wealth, power, be a leader or make a woman laugh aren't biological traits?

Was that supposed to be rhetorical? Of course they are not biological traits. They are social traits, and the means vary from culture to culture.

 

[idestroyedthetoilet]

Was that supposed to be rhetorical? Of course they are not biological traits. They are social traits, and the means vary from culture to culture.

You seem to be focusing on the hive impact on personality traits and forgetting that, yes, these traits are biological in origin. Sure, the hive can alter how somebody acts or reacts, but those actions still come from a biological brain. Culture can only shape your genetic makeup to a certain extent.

I'll leave at this: evolution of apex predator attraction seems to center around both power and dimorphism traits. The lion's mane, the silverback gorilla. Straight human women are clearly different than this.

 

[One Brow]

You seem to be focusing on the hive impact on personality traits and forgetting that, yes, these traits are biological in origin. Sure, the hive can alter how somebody acts or reacts, but those actions still come from a biological brain. Culture can only shape your genetic makeup to a certain extent.

I'll leave at this: evolution of apex predator attraction seems to center around both power and dimorphism traits. The lion's mane, the silverback gorilla. Straight human women are clearly different than this.

As a side note, gorillas are not predators.

Many straight female lions in a pride will mate with the non-dominant males. Many straight females in gorilla group mate with non-dominant males. Plenty of straight, human females mate with mate with non-dominant males, even the older, uglier ones. All the females in these groups have the same basic biology.

However, you changed the topic from your previous question. Regardless of with whom women choose to mate, "The ability to obtain wealth, power, be a leader or make a woman laugh" are not biological traits. They are social traits, and the ability of people to assume varies greatly both between and within cultures. A man capable of generating great wealth in one culture may be incapable of doing so in anther.

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

How about this for a thesis topic: "Readers who mistake obviously facetious and tongue-in-cheek posts as attempts at serious social commentary and critique them as such"?

Not very good. Not even a thesis, or a complete sentence. Try again.

 

[JazzGal]

Edit: I don't know what I do wrong with images.

This was supposed to be the old comic where the unattractive, overweight man looks in a mirror and sees a buff, handsome stud. A thin, pretty girl looks in a mirror and sees an ugly, fat woman.

Stereotypes exist for a reason, I suppose.

 

[JazzGal]

Ok, I'm too depressed to talk basketball today. So, here's something I've long wondered. I was reading about the woman who has accused Carolina Panther owner Jerry Richardson with sexual harassment, and this fits the common pattern of old/overweight/unattractive men who sexually harass young/shapely/attractive women, AS IF these young, hot 20-30 somethings find old/overweight/unattractive somehow sexually desirable. Whereas men are sexually attracted to young, attractive women, it's as if these men think the converse is never true, that these women look at these old/overweight/unattractive men and routinely think to themselves, "Oh yeah, I want to tap that." Take, for example, Donald Trump. By all objective measures of physical attractiveness, the man's a pig. Yet, he seems to think that women routinely find him sexually desirable.

It reminds of years ago when I had a long commute back home after work. I'd listen to this radio show with two co-hosts. These guys were funny at times, but they routinely objectified women for physical attractiveness. I was curious one day, so I googled them. They were both badly overweight, middle-aged men, and I had a hard time believing that the average woman (attractive or not) found these guys sexually alluring.

I understand that money and power play into this, that's it's not all about physical attractiveness, but it does seem to me that men can be a wee bit disconnected from reality at times about how attractive they are to women. Men, I've concluded, tend to badly overrate how attractive women actually find them. They talk about how they'd like to do this and that to these young, beautiful women but never seem to realize that the vast majority of these women would be grossed out at the thought of seeing these guys naked, let alone having sex with them.

Anyway, that's my rant for the day. Now back to being depressed.

Don't be too depressed. We are actually in a time, finally, when women's voices are being heard. Rich/powerful/ugly men are hopefully getting the message based on others' ruined careers and lives, but sadly these types of men often believe they deserve anything they want and do not understand how their actions and words cause harm. Hopefully poor/powerless/handsome men get it as well (because they can be every bit as horrible). I imagine that some men will always over-estimate their attractiveness to women. But the times are a'changin' and hopefully it will only get better from here.

But thanks for the empathy. I often have to remind myself that the vast majority of men I've met in my life have treated me decently, and I try not to focus too much on those who haven't.

 

[addictionary]

Indeed they are.

But women has their own agenda of being women.

Here is a tombstone from Turkey:



It says: “Here lies a man named Halil who died from the constant nagging and fighting of his wives and his mother and who wanted these words written on his tombstone: El Fatiha (smth like RIP) for the soul of Esseyid Halil who died of the bitching of women”

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

So, biologically speaking, women are attracted to a feature that is not biological?

Well, yeah. Reproductive biology and sociology conclude that for the sake of extending the survival of the species, women are supposed to be young, healthy and fertile. Men look for those traits -- young skin, bright eyes, good geometry, etc. Whereas, the male is supposed to be a provider and protector, with ample resources to successfully raise children. So women are looking for prowess as well as other attractive traits and will often trade up from one man to the next on their list if they can.

This doesn't justify predatory behavior like Harvey Weinstein. Women obviously have a right not to be intimidated or sexually dominated. However, women are far from innocent and are not merely "taken advantage of" when they're actively pursuing attention from powerful men.

 

[MVP]

Edit: I don't know what I do wrong with images.

This was supposed to be the old comic where the unattractive, overweight man looks in a mirror and sees a buff, handsome stud. A thin, pretty girl looks in a mirror and sees an ugly, fat woman.

Stereotypes exist for a reason, I suppose.

not the same I guess but the same point?