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no thanks, the corpse of Iguodala completely invalidated him.
The Stretch 4 Discussion Thread
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no thanks, the corpse of Iguodala completely invalidated him.
LoPo
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I'm not against Tolliver. He would be a good addition and an asset for this team. I would just be a little more ambitious when prioritizing assets. In a perfect world, we add Tolliver this year and sign Harris as an unrestricted free agent in 2019. However, that's freaking risky. I would rather lock in the Harris cog now if we can.
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Sure. Sac does have cap space next year, but most FA just use them as leverage to get more from the destination they really want to go to. I know you are talking about Hill.
With Harris he could be extended by the clips and then traded 6 months later... so maybe by the trade deadline. If not just wait until FA... I don't want to do the midseason dance. Plus we could get in on Middleton or another FA.
Table Harris for now... revisit later.
7StraightIsGreat
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What happens if the Lakers pitch to Lebron/Paul George works and LA is suddenly faced with having to cut some major salary, fast?
In that scenario I think a team willing to take on Deng’s deal can steal a nice, young piece from LA.
Yes, the Lakers love Kuzma, but Magic Johnson isn’t walking away from Lebron/PG just for the sake of holding onto him. This is obviously just one “what if” scenario but as usual, there will be a couple of teams going “All In” on some new version of a super team and that will free up some pieces a team like the Jazz can swoop in and pick up for cheaper than we expect.
In that scenario I think a team willing to take on Deng’s deal can steal a nice, young piece from LA.
Yes, the Lakers love Kuzma, but Magic Johnson isn’t walking away from Lebron/PG just for the sake of holding onto him. This is obviously just one “what if” scenario but as usual, there will be a couple of teams going “All In” on some new version of a super team and that will free up some pieces a team like the Jazz can swoop in and pick up for cheaper than we expect.
I don't know **** about the draft, but if there's a good candidate there, higher or whatever, I think that should be the focus. Mitchell should have a guy to build alongside, and the rookie-scale contract is absolutely huge while it's in effect.
They'd also be clay to shape into the player the Jazz specifically want.
Again, I know jack about the draft this year, and don't know how to move up. HH's idea to use Marv to get there is actually totally sick. If NY would actually consider dumping Noah and their pick for the relief, you have to look at that (I doubt they would, but let's hope Lebron signals interest).
They'd also be clay to shape into the player the Jazz specifically want.
Again, I know jack about the draft this year, and don't know how to move up. HH's idea to use Marv to get there is actually totally sick. If NY would actually consider dumping Noah and their pick for the relief, you have to look at that (I doubt they would, but let's hope Lebron signals interest).
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They can stretch Deng, and Kuzma is the most untouchable player on their roster.
LoPo
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So hypothetically, we could trade Burks and Udoh for Carroll (http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y7f7zwnt ) Brooklyn does it to save money and maybe they have more faith in Burks becoming something for them than Carroll.
Then we sign Tolliver to a Thabo or Jerekbo type deal. Overall, we get two more needed players for SF and PF while not sacrificing 2019 cap space. We also get to keep Jerekbo and Thabo so we are that much deeper.
I generally love building through the draft but I think now is the time to strike if we're going to make a move in Trade/FA (primary assets being expirings and/or first round picks).
Rudy and Donovan still have lots of room to grow but they're also ready now. We get a third Musketeer and we could contend now, and for years to come.
Rudy and Donovan still have lots of room to grow but they're also ready now. We get a third Musketeer and we could contend now, and for years to come.
This organization ain't the Cavs, but that's what they tried when they got Lebron and ended up marooned with a slapped-together roster.
Jack Strop
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We have? Never happened in the Larry H. era. Jazz went into the tax once to keep Millsap until Boozer's contract expired.
Lindsey spent ONCE in his tenure by bringing in Joe Johnson and trading for Fat Boris. Still, payroll was far under the tax line.
Jazz have never spent to get over the hump. I do give DL a pass this year as he was reserving money for Hayward and there was little left on the market after Jy 4th.
Dude, you gotta have a good reason to go north of the tax line, and there hasn't been one in a decade.
Different circumstances, that was the ultimate win-now-and-appease-LeBron scenario. DL wouldn't do anything like that. I'm talking about a smart, calculated move that would snag us another core piece without leveraging the future of the franchise or breaking up the existing core. Maybe it's not possible but I think now is an appropriate time for the franchise to actively explore those opportunities.