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Following Potential 2018 Draftees

Handlogten's Heros said:
Those seconds were traded for one purpose... cash

I don’t love everything the FO does but I have faith in their direction and overall planning.

There was smoke last year on DJ Wilson... wonder if they still like him... Could be a good buy low.
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IMO they trade those picks when they don't like anyone there. I don't think they would have traded them if they loved somebody that was available. They've also spent money before to move up(Gobert) so IMO the cash is not the primary driving force in those trades - it's whether they love a player there or not. If they don't love the options available they just cash in for a future moment when they might love someone and need cash to get him.
 
I do love that we are all making it out like DL targets and gets his guy and has convictions without doubt... he laid the groundwork on the Denver deal but they called him, he admitted they didn’t know he was this good... I mean no one could have predicted that. Rudy was in part because Sloan loved him at his workout...he’s been excellent but don’t ignore the luck element.

He also locked into trey Lyles because of the balance beam test... he’s great but he’s been fortunate too.

Let’s say they do all their questioning on KBD and Frazier and think it’s teally a coin flip... does that mean he’s not decisive or lacks conviction? Or does it just mean projecting this stuff is hard and you do your best and hope to hit more than you miss? I’d just like to get s couple swings because I think there are worthy prospects out to 35/40ish
 
stitches said:
IMO they trade those picks when they don't like anyone there. I don't think they would have traded them if they loved somebody that was available. They've also spent money before to move up(Gobert) so IMO the cash is not the primary driving force in those trades - it's whether they love a player there or not. If they don't love the options available they just cash in for a future moment when they might love someone and need cash to get him.
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I think some of the cash was reinvested but can’t look the other way when there were many good prospects available and we trade seconds for worse seconds in the future... and cash.

I have a deeper issue with the frugalness we exhibited for a few years operating at the salary floor in the name of flexibility. We could have spent more and not ruined any flexibility. I believe that has been remedied with the trust arrangement. We’ve been extremely profitable for an nba franchise... I think Greg valued cash and DL made it happen for him at the expense of some lower tier assets,
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I do love that we are all making it out like DL targets and gets his guy and has convictions without doubt... he laid the groundwork on the Denver deal but they called him, he admitted they didn’t know he was this good... I mean no one could have predicted that. Rudy was in part because Sloan loved him at his workout...he’s been excellent but don’t ignore the luck element.

He also locked into trey Lyles because of the balance beam test... he’s great but he’s been fortunate too.

Let’s say they do all their questioning on KBD and Frazier and think it’s teally a coin flip... does that mean he’s not decisive or lacks conviction? Or does it just mean projecting this stuff is hard and you do your best and hope to hit more than you miss? I’d just like to get s couple swings because I think there are worthy prospects out to 35/40ish
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I’ve always felt that the balance beam garbage was because they were looking for something to sell on a pick they were lukewarm about. I think the balance thing became important in retrospect because there wasn’t much you could really say was great. Have a hard time thinking he went in to draft day thinking “you should see this kid on the balance beam!”

I could be wrong, though.
 
infection said:
I’ve always felt that the balance beam garbage was because they were looking for something to sell on a pick they were lukewarm about. I think the balance thing became important in retrospect because there wasn’t much you could really say was great. Have a hard time thinking he went in to draft day thinking “you should see this kid on the balance beam!”

I could be wrong, though.
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Nah... they valued it and liked Trey. He’s not awful but I don’t think they had to justify the pick... I think it kept getting mentioned as a “hey we think this guy can be a playmaker” type of thing.

Turns out he can master the balance beam routine but he couldn’t defend an actual balance beam.
 
Catchall said:
If Bradley was a guy they wanted, then making a move to get him was the right move. They made a clear decision and executed. So you have to credit them for that. If Bradley becomes close to the interior defender and rebounder that Steven Adams is, they made a good move. It's relatively easy to pick up backup guards like Josh Hart or Derrick White.
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Yup guys who immediately come in and play solid defense and shoot 40% from 3 their rookie (like hart) are a dime a dozen and can be found super cheap on the FA market while true centers who don’t stretch the floor or protect the paint are all the rage in the nba right now and can’t be found anywhere... gtfo with that... the other stuff is fine... it was a weird pick I don’t have to give them credit until he does something. Adams is a terrible comp. If he learns to shoot he could be a homeless mans pau Gasol.
 
infection said:
I’ve always felt that the balance beam garbage was because they were looking for something to sell on a pick they were lukewarm about. I think the balance thing became important in retrospect because there wasn’t much you could really say was great. Have a hard time thinking he went in to draft day thinking “you should see this kid on the balance beam!”

I could be wrong, though.
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I doubt the Jazz were lukewarm on him. They probably just used the balance thing because it was an interesting tidbit.
 
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