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Sign and Trade Boozer?

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Would some explain how a Boozer sign and trade could work? If Boozer were to agree to a sign and trade, what would be his incentive to do so? How could the Jazz make sure he doesn't just walk so it works out for both parties involved?

Did anyone read this article? https://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AnY4lbpFqEb0iVXjKyFtNwY5nYcB?slug=ys-boshwade062910
Sounds like the Raptors are hoping for a Bosh sign and trade - and looking for some serious value in return. It seems like the Jazz should be doing the same thing.
 
well ... Boozer is benefited by a (possibly) longer contract and more money than he might have otherwise. Sooo many moving parts to type at 1 a.m. though. :)

My prediction is no S&T and no Boozer ... and that's okay. A S&T is sexier but understanding the rules (I think), not likely. Scroll down for others threads with info.
 
I guess it was after reading the article about the Raptors trying to get D. Lee, Beasley, Taj Gibson/Noah in return for Bosh (before he walks) that made me wonder if the Jazz F.O. had any chance of swaying Boozer to participate in a similar scenario.

Late night = run on sentences.
 
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Carmelo Anthony(notes) has one more year left on his contract with the Denver Nuggets before he can opt out of it and become an unrestricted free agent. The Nuggets are feeling like he may do just that and the team "is prepared to trade Melo rather than let him walk" next summer, according to a source for the Denver Post.

That's novel. Trade an asset before it's gone. Come on F.O.
 
I would think Boozer would rather stay here than play in Toronto & as S&T for David Lee won't help our team.
A S&T for Eddy Curry (expiring ~12M) & Wilson Chandler is appealing (tradable assets) than having Millsap & Lee on the court together.
 
PrinceJL said:
I would think Boozer would rather stay here than play in Toronto & as S&T for David Lee won't help our team.
A S&T for Eddy Curry (expiring ~12M) & Wilson Chandler is appealing (tradable assets) than having Millsap & Lee on the court together.
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For sure. I was thinking the idea of a sign and trade was a winner - not necessarily for the above mentioned players.
 
PrinceJL said:
I would think Boozer would rather stay here than play in Toronto & as S&T for David Lee won't help our team.
A S&T for Eddy Curry (expiring ~12M) & Wilson Chandler is appealing (tradable assets) than having Millsap & Lee on the court together.
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I agree. Moreover, maybe Curry would start playing up to his potential (of course after losing some body fat) under the coaching of the Cruel Jerry.
 
The Curry saga is soo dysfunctional and deep it's mind boggling - the latest is he defaulted on a hush payment to some 14 year old that he knocked up.

I doubt any team would want to be associated with this idiot - as a player, tradeable asset, expiring contract or whatever.
 
The larger point of that article illustrates we wouldn't need to take on dead weight like Curry. The rumored deal with Bosh going to Miami, for example, doesn't technically work under normal trade parameters. Beasley, Chalmers, and Anthony top out at like 7 million. Miami makes it work by converting the rest into a TPE because they're under the cap. Boozer deals are likely going to focus on bringing back a small chip and getting the rest in a TPE. Some say it doesn't benefit Boozer's destination to give up chips for a player they can sign outright, but giving back any salary maximizes their ability to retain cap space in going after more free agents so there is some incentive.
 
billyshelby said:
The larger point of that article illustrates we wouldn't need to take on dead weight like Curry. The rumored deal with Bosh going to Miami, for example, doesn't technically work under normal trade parameters. Beasley, Chalmers, and Anthony top out at like 7 million. Miami makes it work by converting the rest into a TPE because they're under the cap. Boozer deals are likely going to focus on bringing back a small chip and getting the rest in a TPE. Some say it doesn't benefit Boozer's destination to give up chips for a player they can sign outright, but giving back any salary maximizes their ability to retain cap space in going after more free agents so there is some incentive.
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Boozer for Wilson Chandler works but taking Curry's additonal 11.3M (not my money) is more of an assest for use to acquire a player w/ a longer contract as we will be already over the cap regardless of Boozer leaving (~54M).. unless come can explain to me if we acquire some type of player trade expemption in S&Ts.
 
billyshelby said:
The larger point of that article illustrates we wouldn't need to take on dead weight like Curry. The rumored deal with Bosh going to Miami, for example, doesn't technically work under normal trade parameters. Beasley, Chalmers, and Anthony top out at like 7 million. Miami makes it work by converting the rest into a TPE because they're under the cap. Boozer deals are likely going to focus on bringing back a small chip and getting the rest in a TPE. Some say it doesn't benefit Boozer's destination to give up chips for a player they can sign outright, but giving back any salary maximizes their ability to retain cap space in going after more free agents so there is some incentive.
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This is what I've been saying. The Jazz can't take back $15M in salaries. Assume the Jazz re-sign Fes and Matthews, let Boozer and Kyle walk, and fill out the roster with miminum salary vets or rookies - that will probably put the Jazz just over the luxury tax threshold (around $68M, IINM). No way will Greg Miller pay Carlos or 1-2 other players $10-$15 combined. That effectively becomes $20-$30M in salary & tax penalties. Remember, he traded assets to save that same amount of cash last season. My guess is he'd go no higher than $5M, if that player was a very good backup.

The only way the Jazz get good value back is 1) a team really wants Boozer 2) there are multiple bidders for him and 3) he refuses to accept anything less than a 6-yr contract. What is the likelihood that happens? Extremely slim. I could only envision a bidding war breaking out for Boozer if most of the FA's re-sign with their current teams. Then that would leave Chicago, Miami, New York and New Jersey scrambling for the leftovers. New York, especially. They've traded a ton of future picks, including an unrestricted first next year, to free up cap space. But their fallback is to re-sign Lee. And Lee wants to return to NY.

If I were a betting man, I'd say there's a 90% chance the Jazz do NOT seek a player in return for Carlos. Or, at the most, it's a young guy making $3M or so. Then they would have a TPE for $10-$12M, will not have added much salary and can shop AK's expiring at the deadline. That's the real value: being able to sign players that have 2-3 years left for up to $17M and giving Team B all that cap room for 2011. They'll get multiple offers.
 
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