Culturally Insensitive man bets a million dollars...

[Zombie]

Except that the representatives of the Cherokee Nation think otherwise. Tell them they are wrong for being offended. Go ahead, I'll wait. . .

Lol I didn't say they were wrong for being offended. I'm just pointing out what Warren said.

 

[Archie Moses]

At the risk of Whitesplaining something, Warren isn't laying claim to tribal heritage or membership.

She won't list herself as that in the Senate cause she's been exposed. She had no problem listing herself that in the past. Do you refute this?

 

[One Brow]

Except that the representatives of the Cherokee Nation think otherwise. Tell them they are wrong for being offended. Go ahead, I'll wait. . .

What I saw in Warren's tweet looked a lot like what I saw of your quote from the Cherokee organization. Perhaps you could explain to this white man what you think the difference is, and why it would be offensive.

 

[LogGrad98]

How did Harvard or anyone else latch onto the idea that she was a minority in the first place? My work knows exactly nothing of my heritage, other than the fact that I am a white male. If she didn't bring it up at some point, who did? She does not have any outward appearance of native american ancestry. How did this even become a thing if she never mentioned it to anyone? And why would she mention having native american heritage at all when one ancestor that far back was native american, which makes me more hebrew than she is native american (a great great something grandmother was a jew, a few steps before Warren's native ancestor, so a larger proportion for me than for her). But I never submitted a recipe for a jewish cookbook or claimed to be jewish at all. So how did it get out, and why?

 

[One Brow]

I like the part where you make it seem like "looking for information" is a bad thing on a discussion forum. Or that being "middle of the road" is bad too.

I find the pretense a bad thing. When you start posting the really stupid stuff that liberals sources say, I'll be more likely to believe the mask you claim.

Smh... "A book sponsored by Cherokees at the the requist [spelling error inserted by Archie Moses] of Cherokees."

Actually, hold up, numb numb. The Cherokees err... "Cherokee" you speak of is Mrs. James P. Rowsey.

Actually, the collector of the recipes was the Five Civilized Tribes Museum (http://www.fivetribes.org/). It's listed on the Amazon page for the book. Guess which tribe is one of the five?

Thank you for crowing so much over my supposed error, only to be mistaken about it. I chuckled, and since other posters have accused me of having no sense of humor in the past, that's no mean feat.

Btw, you're terrible at pinning me and your assumptions are beyond poor. I'd give you like a 4.7 out of 10. Chin up though, chap. That's just an F.

So you say. Yet, again and again, your posts are those of a person who's a conservative but not willing to be upfront about it. It's almost as if you refuse to read websites that have a more liberal bias, like Vox (in case you have forgotten, that's exactly what you said when I posted a link to it).

 

[One Brow]

How did Harvard or anyone else latch onto the idea that she was a minority in the first place?

She mentioned it after she was hired, and according to her, was looking for people with similar memories to share them with.

 

[JimLes]

The actual Cherokee nation says its disingenuous, for starters:

Well, there we go then, that's what I was waiting for. If the Cherokee say she's not a Cherokee, then she's not. She's clearly something, so maybe this will spur her to do some actual old-fashioned genealogy. The kind that can get you a tribal membership. I'm actually surprised in all this hullabaloo that no one has traced her ancestry.

 

[framer]

What I saw in Warren's tweet looked a lot like what I saw of your quote from the Cherokee organization. Perhaps you could explain to this white man what you think the difference is, and why it would be offensive.

Warren obviously claimed to be Native American both in the past and right freaking today. She press released it, and the news stations ran it unquestioningly to "dunk on Trump" as did people on this site. The Cherokee nation calls you out and you are telling them they cannot be offended. Why are you diminishing their experience? Are you saying that they are wrong to be offended?

 

[framer]

She mentioned it after she was hired, and according to her, was looking for people with similar memories to share them with.

It has become relatively obvious that Warren has lied about her experiences claiming to be Native American, a lot. Did she tell you about how her parents were forced to elope because of her mother's obvious Cherokee background?

 

[Archie Moses]

I find the pretense a bad thing. When you start posting the really stupid stuff that liberals sources say, I'll be more likely to believe the mask you claim.



Actually, the collector of the recipes was the Five Civilized Tribes Museum (http://www.fivetribes.org/). It's listed on the Amazon page for the book. Guess which tribe is one of the five?

Thank you for crowing so much over my supposed error, only to be mistaken about it. I chuckled, and since other posters have accused me of having no sense of humor in the past, that's no mean feat.



So you say. Yet, again and again, your posts are those of a person who's a conservative but not willing to be upfront about it. It's almost as if you refuse to read websites that have a more liberal bias, like Vox (in case you have forgotten, that's exactly what you said when I posted a link to it).

https://elizabethwarrenwiki.org/pow-wow-chow-cookbook/

 

[framer]

Well, there we go then, that's what I was waiting for. If the Cherokee say she's not a Cherokee, then she's not. She's clearly something, so maybe this will spur her to do some actual old-fashioned genealogy. The kind that can get you a tribal membership. I'm actually surprised in all this hullabaloo that no one has traced her ancestry.

She's not "clearly" something. That percentage is probably below the average "American Indian" status of people on this site. 1/1000 is just statistical noise. 23andMe isn't exact science as the Cherokee representative just called out. They extrapolate "American Indian" based on South American sampling. My wife's Grandmother was Mexican Indian. That does not make my children 1/16 Cherokee.

 

[JimLes]

She's not "clearly" something. That percentage is probably below the average "American Indian" status of people on this site. 1/1000 is just statistical noise. 23andMe isn't exact science as the Cherokee representative just called out. They extrapolate "American Indian" based on South American sampling. My wife's Grandmother was Mexican Indian. That does not make my children 1/16 Cherokee.

It doesn't make her Cherokee, but it does mean she has Native American ancestry. Or as you said, Aboriginal in general, but seeing as she seems to have no recent ancestry from South America, it's very unlikely it would be because of that. She has NA ancestry. She did not make that up.