Fact-Checkers........

[babe]

I think for the most part, Snopes tries to be accurate but it can be wrong. It's only as good as the sources they consult.

Imo, the bias is purposed, and most of the work isn't biased. Only when it matters...… and yes, it's all about the sources available, and which are selected as reliable.

 

[Ron Mexico]

I do about 1 for 10 I get. Consistent offenders are asking for it.

Maybe, but I am suspicious of that number. You pretty constantly belittle people on here. Most of your long rants have something mocking people on here. But even if what you are claiming is true its still hypocritical to get upset about being called names when you are doing it. You cant control other people but you can control yourself. If you want less personal attacks then do less do less personal attacks and name calling.

 

[babe]

And what's your agenda? Spreading misinformation to try and stem the tide of "progress"?

my agenda is personal liberty, opportunity and inherent rights that benefit us in larger measures. The current world power construct promotes industrial, corporate, financial and political elites.... favors cartelism, monopolies, restricts competition generally in ways that disenfranchise most of mankind.

 

[babe]

Maybe, but I am suspicious of that number. You pretty constantly belittle people on here. Most of your long rants have something mocking people on here. But even if what you are claiming is true its still hypocritical to get upset about being called names when you are doing it. You cant control other people but you can control yourself. If you want less personal attacks then do less do less personal attacks and name calling.

fair enough. But mentioning an example, as in the second post above, might not be a complaint, if I am actually relishing the opportunity for a response or using it for illustrative purposes.

When was the last time I reported anything with a request for punitive moderator action?

 

[Alfalfa]

my agenda is personal liberty, opportunity and inherent rights that benefit us in larger measures. The current world power construct promotes industrial, corporate, financial and political elites.... favors cartelism, monopolies, restricts competition generally in ways that disenfranchise most of mankind.

I think I saw that embroiled on a pillow somewhere. The situation of mankind has continuously improved under the current system of liberal democracies. It's just one more fact you don't care about. The misinformation brigade were able to convince enough people that THE SYSTEM IS OUT TO GET YOU! But it's a hiccup. I hope you enjoyed your time under the sun, because it will soon end.

 

[babe]

what might be on topic here, is anyone who has an example of a Snopes evaluation they disagree with, and their facts or reasons for considering it wrong. Or, say, a politically-relevant Snopes report that favors say Libertarians or Constitutionalists. Or maybe for exemplary purposes, some stuff you really like or consider really helpful positive examples to support your opposing opinion.

I consider flat-earth stuff just ignorant, and any issue run out as belittling non-progressive folks in a disproportionate or hateful way.... Hitler references for example....as just so useless for this discussion. Let's stick to some facts we can discuss rationally, OK.

 

[Ron Mexico]

fair enough. But mentioning an example, as in the second post above, might not be a complaint, if I am actually relishing the opportunity for a response or using it for illustrative purposes.

When was the last time I reported anything with a request for punitive moderator action?

No clue when you report stuff. I am not a mod. You just complain and bring it up in multiple threads. So I guess if you are not saying its an issue then have at it.

 

[babe]

I think I saw that embroiled on a pillow somewhere. The situation of mankind has continuously improved under the current system of liberal democracies. It's just one more fact you don't care about. The misinformation brigade were able to convince enough people that THE SYSTEM IS OUT TO GET YOU! But it's a hiccup. I hope you enjoyed your time under the sun, because it will soon end.

Liberal democracies have done better than most of the world, I agree.... and better than most of history for that matter. But it is because of things like the Magna Carta and the Bill of Rights being held up by people and politicians, not because of institutional establishments nor organized political movements, nor increases in government authority.

 

[babe]

No clue when you report stuff. I am not a mod. You just complain and bring it up in multiple threads. So I guess if you are not saying its an issue then have at it.

I consider reporting stuff just contrary to the liberty I like and hope people can have. But I do like to talk about it in threads.

 

[Alfalfa]

Liberal democracies have done better than most of the world, I agree.... and better than most of history for that matter. But it is because of things like the Magna Carta and the Bill of Rights being held up by people and politicians, not because of institutional establishments nor organized political movements, nor increases in government authority.

It's because of a thousand year old document? Surely that's not true. Societies' norms progressed naturally and organically in response to their circumstances. A process that no longer suits certain parts of society that prefer a type of stasis around their preferred, archaic, worldview.

 

[Ron Mexico]

what might be on topic here, is anyone who has an example of a Snopes evaluation they disagree with, and their facts or reasons for considering it wrong. Or, say, a politically-relevant Snopes report that favors say Libertarians or Constitutionalists. Or maybe for exemplary purposes, some stuff you really like or consider really helpful positive examples to support your opposing opinion.

I consider flat-earth stuff just ignorant, and any issue run out as belittling non-progressive folks in a disproportionate or hateful way.... Hitler references for example....as just so useless for this discussion. Let's stick to some facts we can discuss rationally, OK.

I fully agree on the Hitler name calling stuff. That is silly and pointless to a discussion. I also agree that we should stick to facts we can discuss. Snopes should not be your only source for information. But that is true of every source. But Snopes does a really good job of staying unbias and doing good research in general and source their information so you can continue to research it on your own. Even other fact checking websites find Snopes to be unbiased with their political stuff.

But if you disagree with something Snopes posts thats fine. I am sure they mess up, everyone does. But like you said lets try and stick to the facts and provide some actual information about why they are wrong from other good sources that are open about their information and sources.

 

[Ron Mexico]

I consider reporting stuff just contrary to the liberty I like and hope people can have. But I do like to talk about it in threads.

So you dont want to report it just hope that by bringing it up that mods will notice and do something about it? Or just want to complain and bring attention to it? Or are you trying to make yourself a martyr by pointing it out frequently?