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Gamethread: Utah Jazz @ Sacramento Kings. 6:00PM MST

LoPo said:
I don't anticipate that Exum will be a starting quality SG. So with that being said, I full anticipate that we will have the following over the next few years of Exum's contract:

Starting PG - Rubio this year but I hope this is upgraded
Mitchell who starts as a SG but will play some PG
Grayson who is a bench PG/SG
Exum who I think should be a bench SG

If our starting PG, Mitchell, and Grayson are doing most of the PG duties, Exum will be a SG and be there as a perimeter defender off the bench.
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i can be fine for that if they use him primarily for defense. he just needs to focus on being someone like andre roberson i guess, and he's not near as bad as shooter as roberson is.
 
Unless he magically learns to shoot. If he could shoot, he'd be a much better attacker in isolation. As it stands, the defense knows whats coming everything time.
 
What would it take to get Bjelica in a trade? Couple seconds? More?

That's just a tough miss. I think we won in part because they elected to go with Giles/Bagley so much.
 
jazzETX said:
i think a couple seconds should be good enough but i don't think vlade would bite
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Sub out Crowder's 28% 3 point shooting for Bjelica's 50% and that helps a whole bunch.

Crowder has been fine... getting to the line a lot more, but it'd be nice to have another reliable stretch option. Could also run 5-Out lineups if we really wanted to.

The Bjelica miss hurts a lot.
 
jazzETX said:
i can be fine for that if they use him primarily for defense. he just needs to focus on being someone like andre roberson i guess, and he's not near as bad as shooter as roberson is.
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If he can learn to become one of the best perimeter defending specialists in the league, I think he's an asset. If he can become our Bruce Bowen, I'm fine with that.

Bruce Bowen didn't emerge in the NBA until he was 25. He didn't really learn his best role until he was 29. He was a 6'7" 185lb wing who only averaged more than 8ppg one season out of 9 seasons as a starter. Bowen only took 5 shots per game even though he averaged 29 minutes per game the last 9 seasons of his career.

I know the game has changed so a guy like Bowen might now have to come off the bench. However, a lock down defender has a place in the NBA regardless of if that player can provide much on offense or not.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Sub out Crowder's 28% 3 point shooting for Bjelica's 50% and that helps a whole bunch.

Crowder has been fine... getting to the line a lot more, but it'd be nice to have another reliable stretch option. Could also run 5-Out lineups if we really wanted to.

The Bjelica miss hurts a lot.
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Mirotic is a better player, but considering the cost in assets to acquire him, in addition to Mirotic's contract status, I think there is room for debate on making the move or not before he ultimately ended up a Pelican.

But the Bjelica **** was a pure miss. 100% blown opportunity.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
I'm also not certain a lineup of Crowder/O'Neale has better spacing than Favors/Mitchell.
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But is anyone comparing Crowder/O’Neale to Favors/Mitchell? I get that people have to reference one game where that was the case, but nobody’s advocating Crowder/O’Neale, just Crowder.
 
infection said:
But is anyone comparing Crowder/O’Neale to Favors/Mitchell? I get that people have to reference one game where that was the case, but nobody’s advocating Crowder/O’Neale, just Crowder.
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People are acting like changing the starting lineup did anything last night compared to our usual starting lineup
 
NUMBERICA said:
Mirotic is a better player, but considering the cost in assets to acquire him, in addition to Mirotic's contract status, I think there is room for debate on making the move or not before he ultimately ended up a Pelican.

But the Bjelica **** was a pure miss. 100% blown opportunity.
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I assumed he'd get full MLE. He got 3 years at 6.5 per year... final year non-guaranteed. That is such a damn bargain. Considering we coulda just let Thabo and Jonas go he would have been free this year.

Probably could have squeezed Dante a bit more and still had max space next year.

We should call Vlade every day... complain about how Joeger doesn't play Baglye and Giles enough... Just keep checking in everyday until he trades him for seconds to us.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I assumed he'd get full MLE. He got 3 years at 6.5 per year... final year non-guaranteed. That is such a damn bargain. Considering we coulda just let Thabo and Jonas go he would have been free this year.

Probably could have squeezed Dante a bit more and still had max space next year.

We should call Vlade every day... complain about how Joeger doesn't play Baglye and Giles enough... Just keep checking in everyday until he trades him for seconds to us.
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Just get him a couple packs of Marlboros.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
People are acting like changing the starting lineup did anything last night compared to our usual starting lineup
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I'm not sure either... they got off to such an ugly start that I'd like to see it one more time. Some could argue that it helped get Ricky some space, but I'm not sure that was the case.

I think it's a change that needs to happen long term and I wouldn't rush back to it. Sounds like Favs took it like a champ... Per Tony Jones.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I'm not sure either... they got off to such an ugly start that I'd like to see it one more time. Some could argue that it helped get Ricky some space, but I'm not sure that was the case.

I think it's a change that needs to happen long term and I wouldn't rush back to it. Sounds like Favs took it like a champ... Per Tony Jones.
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They are. There has been a huge scapegoating of Favors in the starting lineup. Even when the starting lineup has gone even or won, people still blame the starting lineup.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I'm not sure either... they got off to such an ugly start that I'd like to see it one more time. Some could argue that it helped get Ricky some space, but I'm not sure that was the case.

I think it's a change that needs to happen long term and I wouldn't rush back to it. Sounds like Favs took it like a champ... Per Tony Jones.
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And my guess is they are going to do what Toronto does and do a flexible starting lineup.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
And my guess is they are going to do what Toronto does and do a flexible starting lineup.
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I think that’s the most fair and it might get Favs more court time or just use him better.

It just made so much sense to do it last night because of Sacramento’s rotation. Indy starts Sabonis and Turner so it might make sense to go back to Favs and Rudy.

I mean if Ricky was shooting like he was last night I’m sure the starting lineup is at least even in Q1 no matter what.
 
Also, I wish Quin would instruct Favors to try above the break 3's.

The 3's Favors makes from the corner are when he has a lot of time and doesnt rush them. He seems to change his shot when someone is attempting to close out, which is almost always in the corner. I'd be interested to see his accuracy from above the break and how the defense would react.
 
str8line said:
Which team out there needs Burks? He has looked aggressive lately.
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Like HH said, we need him. However, I would like to see his minutes go to Grayson, O'Neale and Exum since I don't think Burks is in our long term plans. Those 3 guys need the minutes and Burks never has Quin's full trust anyway.

Around the NBA, I could see the following teams looking at a guy like Burks (for his play not necessarily his contract):
Bucks - they could use some scoring off the bench
Sixers - he's not the "shooter" they covet, but they have poor depth
Pistons - they could use as many wings as possible to go with that frontcourt
Pelicans - they are another PG and frontcourt heavy team
Hornets - they have some bad contracts and some inconsistent wing play
 
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