D'Angelo Russell

[LoPo]

I think he is good enough player to warrant his own thread for discussion.

This is a very interesting read. https://www.sbnation.com/2018/12/19...oklyn-nets-rumors-free-agent-trade-salary-cap

My opinion - Russell is the best player we can pursue who helps us now while also a core piece for the long term. We could entertain guys like Ntilikina and Fultz, but they aren't ready to help our aging roster right now. We could also look at guys like Collison and Lin, but those guys are band-aids who don't tip the scale for now or the future. We can dream about Porter, but I think Russell is better AND has a higher upside.

When I talk about an "aggressive" move, this is that type deal. Brooklyn definitely considers themselves a "big free agent" destination. In order to target the big fish, they need the money. Since they need money, we should offer to get Russell AND take on Crabbe. By doing that, Brooklyn is able to dump their worst contract. Since they might lose Russell for nothing this summer anyway, this would be wise for Brooklyn because they would have money for two big players.

I would start off with an offer of:
Russell and Crabbe for Rubio, Thabo, Niang and our 2019 1st rounder
http://tradenba.com/trades/HJKPGfdg4

EDIT - I would not take Crabbe.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Ntidklskjs is trash and Fultz is probably busted (and definitely not available for what anyone should be offering.

If we’re getting them off Crabbe, **** sending them a pick. That’s giving them like $30 million in cap space and totally taking us out of free agency where it’s this offseason or bust (0 gettable stars will be free agents in 2020, then Donovan needs to get paid).

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

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I would start off with an offer of:
Russell and Crabbe for Rubio, Thabo, Niang and our 2019 1st rounder
http://tradenba.com/trades/HJKPGfdg4

This sounds like a huge pipe dream


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[LoPo]

Ntidklskjs is trash and Fultz is probably busted (and definitely not available for what anyone should be offering.

If we’re getting them off Crabbe, **** sending them a pick. That’s giving them like $30 million in cap space and totally taking us out of free agency where it’s this offseason or bust (0 gettable stars will be free agents in 2020, then Donovan needs to get paid).

I don't think we can get a player as good as Russell in this summer's free agency. I just don't see it. We can hold out hope for Tobias and Middleton, but those around 1% of 1% of possible.

If we have to give up a 1st and take Crabbe, I would do it. Crabbe comes off the books before Donovan could ever get paid anyway.

 

[The Midnight]

I thought the consensus plan around here was to overpay for Malcom Brogdon in the offseason?

 

[LoPo]

This sounds like a huge pipe dream


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I'm not making the quotes, but the articles out of Brooklyn are saying that the franchise isn't 100% sold on keeping Russell this summer. They are also saying Brooklyn would have to use a first to dump Crabbe. So if we took Crabbe AND sent a 1st, we are essentially sending two 1st rounders for Russell who is a restricted free agent.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I’ve decided I’m in the just say no to Deangelo camp.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Ntidklskjs is trash and Fultz is probably busted (and definitely not available for what anyone should be offering.

If we’re getting them off Crabbe, **** sending them a pick. That’s giving them like $30 million* in cap space and totally taking us out of free agency where it’s this offseason or bust (0 gettable stars will be free agents in 2020, then Donovan needs to get paid).

*40 million

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

I'm not making the quotes, but the articles out of Brooklyn are saying that the franchise isn't 100% sold on keeping Russell this summer. They are also saying Brooklyn would have to use a first to dump Crabbe. So if we took Crabbe AND sent a 1st, we are essentially sending two 1st rounders for Russell who is a restricted free agent.

I meant this seems like a pipe dream that this would ever be a good trade to fix the jazz


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[NUMBERICA]

If the Jazz haven’t landed a star with their cap by 2020, it isn’t happening. And it ain’t happening in 2020.

Trading a 1st and taking us out of any possibility of landing a difference maker in 2019 is a no for me. I’d send a 1st OR take Crabbe.

 

[LoPo]

I meant this seems like a pipe dream that this would ever be a good trade to fix the jazz


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Who should we target then?

 

[LoPo]

If the Jazz haven’t landed a star with their cap by 2020, it isn’t happening. And it ain’t happening in 2020.

Trading a 1st and taking us out of any possibility of landing a difference maker in 2019 is a no for me. I’d send a 1st OR take Crabbe.

I respect your stance on it.

If we just wait until summer free agency, who would you target?