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The exact same people bitching about this would be bitching if Trump announced he was extending our commitment in the region. We have 2,000 troops there. Withdrawing them won't lead to World War 3, especially as we have a carrier in the gulf. I mean if it is that important to Europe, they can provide the troops and let them be assigned to hot fire zones like our soldiers have been.

We need to rethink our military presence in a lot of areas. I study Russia, I lived in Russia. Russia is not remotely the threat that China is both economically and militarily. If we are extending commitments, it needs to be towards countering China. A combined Europe could handle Russia and they need to be given that opportunity. And for hell's sake, stop buying their energy if they are such an existential threat. We need to act the same with China.
 
Consider why Russia (really Putin) approves of this move, and our allies in the region don't. It's more in their interest than ours, and that to me, is not sound foreign policy.

Good heck man.

Take a step back.

Can you see yourself and all the other Russia Gaters for what it is? You dont think that the constant airing of Russian conspiracy theories is brain washing you just a little bit?

****ing Russia everything. What the hell is going on? Propaganda is is so much more effective than I could ever imagined. This **** is insane. Half this country is walking around like mindless zombies repeating Russia Russia Russia Russia everything .

Its propaganda. Its 100% political propaganda and you are taking it hook line and sinker. This **** is sad. I thought most people were smarter than this.

Turn off the tv. Look out your door. What does Russia have to do with anything? You would think they were marching up and down our streets taking over our country by how much they are being talked about.
 
Good heck man.

Take a step back.

Can you see yourself and all the other Russia Gaters for what it is? You dont think that the constant airing of Russian conspiracy theories is brain washing you just a little bit?

****ing Russia everything. What the hell is going on? Propaganda is is so much more effective than I could ever imagined. This **** is insane. Half this country is walking around like mindless zombies repeating Russia Russia Russia Russia everything .

Its propaganda. Its 100% political propaganda and you are taking it hook line and sinker. This **** is sad. I thought most people were smarter than this.

Turn off the tv. Look out your door. What does Russia have to do with anything? You would think they were marching up and down our streets taking over our country by how much they are being talked about.
What the **** are you even talking about? Our foreign policy should based around promoting American values and interests, not those of corrupt autocrats like Putin and Erdogan. Supposed conspiracy theories don't really enter into it.
 
What the **** are you even talking about? Our foreign policy should based around promoting American values and interests, not those of corrupt autocrats like Putin and Erdogan. Supposed conspiracy theories don't really enter into it.


I assume you are a Democrat/Liberal right?

You literally just said "our foreign policy should be based around promoting American values and interests". You know that is the foreign policy we have always had, and also the same policy liberals despised for years? And the same policy that has bankrupted the country?

If Bush does is its bad. If Obama does it is ok. If Trump is against it then we must do it.

I guarantee you would not have had the same take when Bush was in office.
 
What the **** are you even talking about? Our foreign policy should based around promoting American values and interests, not those of corrupt autocrats like Putin and Erdogan. Supposed conspiracy theories don't really enter into it.

And what does 2000 American troops living in Syria have to do with that?
 
And what does 2000 American troops living in Syria have to do with that?
The sudden removal of them with out any warning or forethought for the fate of our allies in Syria will cause them, and others I'm sure as well, to wonder just why it is they are aligning themselves with us in the first place.
 
Like others have said, it's not just the fact that we are leaving Syria, it's that we are doing it on a whim. It's not the kind of thing that is likely to inspire confidence in us in the future among our allies in the middle east and around the globe.


It's hard to read things like this and think yeah, this is a step in the right direction.
 
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Like others have said, it's not just the fact that we are leaving Syria, it's that we are doing it on a whim. It's not the kind of thing that is likely to inspire confidence in us in the future among our allies in the middle east and around the globe.


It's hard to read things like this and think yeah, this is a step in the right direction.


Hasn't Trump talked about getting out of wars since the very beginning of his campaigning for president?

This isnt really a shock to anyone who knows that he is a man of his word.
 
Hasn't Trump talked about getting out of wars since the very beginning of his campaigning for president?

This isnt really a shock to anyone who knows that he is a man of his word.
Lol genius take man.

"Sorry Kurds, yeah you've fought by our side countless times, but you really should have seen an out of the blue withdrawal of our support coming. Good luck with the ethnic cleansing, we're out!"
 
Lol genius take man.

"Sorry Kurds, yeah you've fought by our side countless times, but you really should have seen an out of the blue withdrawal of our support coming. Good luck with the ethnic cleansing, we're out!"

Im sure they will understand. We cant keep kicking this can down the road.

This is like kicking out your lazy roomate who cant hold down a job and pay his share. Youve been warning him that you cant afford to take care of him forever. He can see that you have been taking out 2nd mortgages and getting pay day loans to pay the bills, but he still wont make an effort to get a job and just smokes weed all day. This person is your friend, but at the same time you cant let the drowning man pull you down with him. So you just tell him he has 30 days to move out one day.

We gave the world a 30 day notice. I think its fair. Since when is 30 days not enough time to make plans?
 
Isnt it about time America bows out of babysitting the middle east and let them take care of their own problems? Its exactly what they want anyways. Anything you do is criticized and unappreciated anyways. Its not the job of the American people to solve everyone's problems. Especially since we are going broke doing it, and we havent solved anything and have only made things worse.

Well since its likely that the worlds next nuclear event will be a terrorist event and the perpetrators will likely be from that region and the victims will likely live in New York, Washington, London Paris or Berlin i would say that it is Americas problem. I could go on and on and on but why bother?
 
Im sure they will understand. We cant keep kicking this can down the road.

This is like kicking out your lazy roomate who cant hold down a job and pay his share. Youve been warning him that you cant afford to take care of him forever. He can see that you have been taking out 2nd mortgages and getting pay day loans to pay the bills, but he still wont make an effort to get a job and just smokes weed all day. This person is your friend, but at the same time you cant let the drowning man pull you down with him. So you just tell him he has 30 days to move out one day.

We gave the world a 30 day notice. I think its fair. Since when is 30 days not enough time to make plans?
I mean...
 
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