How'd that work out for you?I was an expression of my nation's dominance over them.
How'd that work out for you?I was an expression of my nation's dominance over them.
I learned a valuable lesson about mankind. I learned that we are all one people. I learned that my nation was only as valuable as it served all of humanity.How'd that work out for you?
Does that mean you open the country up to ANYONE who wants to enter?I learned a valuable lesson about mankind. I learned that we are all one people. I learned that my nation was only as valuable as it served all of humanity.
Read my previous posts on that. I'm not going to restate 50 times things I've said because you're ignorant.Does that mean you open the country up to ANYONE who wants to enter?
You're dodging the question.Read my previous posts on that. I'm not going to restate 50 times things I've said because you're ignorant.
I have stated explicitly how I think that should be handled.You're dodging the question.
You'd said things like "We are one", "our nation should serve all humanity", etc.
Then should you open up the country for anyone who wants to enter?
I'm not a stalker that reads your every posts.. I can only keep up with posts in the thread that I've started (more or less).I have stated explicitly how I think that should be handled.
You're dodging doing your own reading and playing the ignorant stupid rube, like you do every so often. I know you're not, so I know you can pull up your big boy pants and do a simple search and find the answer you're looking for.
see the PM I sent you.I'm not a stalker that reads your every posts.. I can only keep up with posts in the thread that I've started (more or less).
It's just a simple question I don't know why you feel the need to dodge it, unless you're uncomfortable answering it.
Wow. So asking you a simple question is offensive to you? In my own thread no less. Fine, I just won't quote you anymore if that's an issue. I don't mind doing that. No worries.see the PM I sent you.
I guess I can't put you on ignore since you're a mod so I'll contact Jason tomorrow and see what my options are and if it is limited to leaving the site..
It's not offensive. Use the search function and find the answer. I don't need to give you a 1000 word answer on a very specific question I have very likely written more than 20,000 words on, on this website. You want the answer, it is there, go find it. But you don't want to know the answer, you want to play dumb and see how far you can get me to re-explain and micro-explain things I've talked about here dozens and dozens of times.Wow. So asking you a simple question is offensive to you? In my own thread no less. Fine, I just won't quote you anymore if that's an issue. I don't mind doing that. No worries.
I gave you my answer. Take trump out of it. My answer is the same. The idea that we're "making money" off of tariffs is flawed from the get go. It is a tax. Those things now cost the businesses that need them more, cost the consumers who use them more and so the idea that now there is this "extra" pile of money is false. I'm not in favor of tariffs in general. I'm sure you could show me specific situations where I'd grudgingly say maybe tariffs are needed, but in general I don't support tariffs. So no tariffs, especially not tariffs as a way to express a temper tantrum.
If a wall gets built I will honestly make it a point to go out and knock part of it down. The wall is the stupidest thing I can even imagine.
First, it isn't going to accomplish the stated reasons for constructing it.
1 -- It'll keep drugs out.
No it won't. There is too much money being made importing drugs into the U.S.. At best it will alter the way drugs are brought in.
2 -- It'll stop human trafficking.
No it won't. At present people sometimes make the decision to enter the U.S. illegally because they want to live here instead of wherever they are from. They make a dangerous journey, sometimes they use a "coyote" but they don't always. If there is a physical barrier that prevents these women and children from just walking across, swimming across or driving across then you will be forcing these people to go to organized smugglers to get them across. You will absolutely increase human trafficking. You will create a more organized, more profitable opportunity for the gatekeepers on the other side of that wall.
3 -- I'll prevent terrorists from entering the U.S.
No, it won't. If coming across the Mexico/U.S. border is the current easiest way for terrorists to enter then they will switch to the second easiest way. But the reality is that this has not been shown to even be a legitimate concern.
If you want to cut down on illegal immigration the answer is not a wall. The answer is a much improved process for allowing the people who want to come here and who are not criminals to come here. Let them in through the front door. Vet them. If all the workers, all the refugees all the normal decent people who want to come in are allowed in legally in a relatively quick process then it makes it easier to focus resources finding the people who still don't want to use legal means to enter. It makes it much easier to assume the people entering illegally are doing so for nefarious purposes.
But that's not what people who want the wall want. They want to protect the U.S. from "those people." They don't want more of them to enter legally, they want less of them to enter altogether. The wall is not so much an actual solution to their concerns, it is an artistic representation of just how much "we" don't want "them" here. That's all the stupid ****ing wall is, just a big middle finger pointed at Mexico.
Leader of the freedom caucus in the house seems to be encouraging trump to usurp massive executive power and circumventing congress in order to spend billions on a wall that the majority of the population doesn’t want and trample on private land owners through Imminent domain.
Imagine the outrage from “conservatives” if Obama had tried this
And all it would have taken to answer my question would have been "Yes, but not criminals". Instead you've gone off the rails calling me names and such.@ONE LOVE this is a post of mine that was a response to you. Directly yo you, quoting your post asking repeatedly for me to say the same thing I'd already said multiple times. And now in this thread you're acting oblivious, again, and wanting me to post all this info, again...
Asil it wold have taken from you would have been too read the responses I've already given you.And all it would have taken to answer my question would have been "Yes, but not criminals". Instead you've gone off the rails calling me names and such.
Anyway this is my final post that I'll quote or respond to you.
Have a nice day.
Exactly.
These Democrats need to stop lying and trying to fool the public with their fake stance on the wall and immigration issues. Its clearly a political ploy. Its a big reason why Trump got elected in the first place. I know lefties love to believe its about racism, but the truth is it was more about being fed up with the same lying nonsense from politicians. These stupid clowns somehow haven't figured out that we now have a lot of access to old statements they have made that show the lies, hypocrisy, and contradictions that they are actually made of. Its really insulting that they continue to try it. They still think they lie and use propaganda to fool the public. Sorry, its not working anymore. Going to have to start telling the truth. Cant just say whatever you want to get elected. I know people want to throw Trump in that camp, but I honestly dont think he falls into it. Ya, he said he would get the wall and make Mexico pay for it. Well, at least he is trying to stick to his word. Its a lot more than you can say for the Democrats at this point.
It's hack. What do you expect?You are part of the problem. All blame on one side. Trump gets a free pass at this point? No. He is the biggest hypocrite in the world. Things hes smashed other Presidents for he is doing.
Both sides have issues, but blasting the only the Dems just makes you look like a tool.