2019 Trade Deadline Discussion

[infection]

One thing that keeps getting mentioned with regard to the Mavs... they are rumored to want to move Wes Matthews. Expiring contract and good vet... not sure why they want to move him but he was mentioned in the DSJ rumors again yesterday.

I know they love Luka and he's the pg... wonder if they'd do a straight Ricky for Wes swap (if we commit to DM at pg). Not the defender he used to be but he shoots the **** out of the ball still. Could waive his caphold this offseason and sign him using part of MLE or BAE (if we use cap space). So it might be for an expiring that sticks around long term.

I have an irrational love for Wes so I can't evaluate the idea fairly.

I think DL and Quin's loyalty to guys like Rubio and Favors will cover quite a large talent gap, so I would be really surprised if they did something like that. However, if we did, then I'd watch for them to be signing Millsap and Carroll to complete the "KOC's that got away" club.

 

[infection]

I just wanna add that I feel strongly that Brook Lopez is the second most important player on that Bucks team and they need to try like hell to keep him. He and Giannis’s strengths/weaknesses complement each other perfectly.

So maybe that becomes a factor.

I wonder what Lopez would look like in Favors' role.

 

[NUMBERICA]

I wonder what Lopez would look like in Favors' role.

Wondered that since last offseason when he got signed for nothing. And we’ve been left to figure out why Tony Bradley has a roster spot.

 

[infection]

Wondered that since last offseason when he got signed for nothing. And we’ve been left to figure out why Tony Bradley has a roster spot.

Should have told the FO "Hey, there's this set of twins out of Stanford that are bigs" and we could have channeled some of that Collins-keeping irrationality.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I just wanna add that I feel strongly that Brook Lopez is the second most important player on that Bucks team and they need to try like hell to keep him. He and Giannis’s strengths/weaknesses complement each other perfectly.

So maybe that becomes a factor.

I need someone to explain how they do it but I don’t think they can sign him using bird rights. They might have to drop below the cap to sign him then handle their other business.

I think because they used an exception to sign him they can only offer like 6M or something... I could be wrong about this... it’s complex.

 

[NUMBERICA]

I need someone to explain how they do it but I don’t think they can sign him using bird rights. They might have to drop below the cap to sign him then handle their other business.

I think because they used an exception to sign him they can only offer like 6M or something... I could be wrong about this... it’s complex.

They have to drop below the cap. Without looking, they could renounce Middleton’s cap hold and probably get there as long as they haven’t already re-signed Brogdon. I don’t understand how they could have three max players and stay under the tax, but still be over the cap if two of those players aren’t yet maxed.

I am shooting from the hip. But I know they have to keep Lopez. They are not getting that level of size, shooting, rim protection, IQ, and general offensive skillset anywhere else. And his anemic rebounding is fine next to Giannis.

However, in that circumstance, Middleton and Brogdon become vulnerable. But if I’m them, I think long and hard about taking that risk.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

They have to drop below the cap. Without looking, they could renounce Middleton’s cap hold and probably get there as long as they haven’t already re-signed Brogdon. I don’t understand how they could have three max players and stay under the tax, but still be over the cap if two of those players aren’t yet maxed.

I am shooting from the hip. But I know they have to keep Lopez. They are not getting that level of size, shooting, rim protection, IQ, and general offensive skillset anywhere else. And his anemic rebounding is fine next to Giannis.

However, in that circumstance, Middleton and Brogdon become vulnerable. But if I’m them, I think long and hard about taking that risk.

They can do it... they have to keep Middleton's caphold on the books though. They would renounce Bledsoe's cap hold. If Malcolm accepted an offer while they were sorting things out it could make it tough... but his low caphold makes it possible.

 

[The Jazz Wonderbra]

Would anyone want Dennis Smith Jr. on the team? I love that he is from the same class as DM, that he is young, that he is explosive, and that he and DM seem to have a strong/competitive relationship. What would it take to get him do you think? And would he be a good fit? What would Dallas want for him?

Grayson Allen has shown some improvement lately and is a stretch player who plays defense. Is that just a pipe dream one for one swap?

 

[framer]

I think the move this offseason is making the Bucks make tough decisions with our cap. Throw one offer at either Middleton/Bronson, and if they match/re-up on the first move, hit them again on the other.

(This basically means Rubio and Favors is gone but I truly don’t think that significantly negatively impacts the Jazz even though they are both good players)

The problem is that you have to renounce Favors and Ricky BEFORE you throw these offers. If we lose out on each of the Buck players then we are out of them plus Ricky and Favors. We would then be in serious scramble mode.

 

[NUMBERICA]

The problem is that you have to renounce Favors and Ricky BEFORE you throw these offers. If we lose out on each of the Buck players then we are out of them plus Ricky and Favors. We would then be in serious scramble mode.

I know that. I guess you skipped the part where I said I really don’t believe they’re really very necessary for this team.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Players that will be on the Jazz next year:

DM, Exum, Neto
Royce, Allen
Ingles, Korver
Crowder,
Gobert, Bradley (we might see if he can play???)

+ whoever they get in the draft and free agency.

Maybe I'm an idiot, but I'm not worried about Rubio and Favors (especially since you can play Royce and Ingles at the 4).

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Players that will be on the Jazz next year:

DM, Exum, Neto
Royce, Allen
Ingles, Korver
Crowder,
Gobert, Bradley (we might see if he can play???)

+ whoever they get in the draft and free agency.

Maybe I'm an idiot, but I'm not worried about Rubio and Favors (especially since you can play Royce and Ingles at the 4).

Favs worries me a bit... his defense with and without Rudy this year has been pretty friggin great. He’s so consistent.

I think Udoh can anchor the second unit defense but the bench scoring will get even worse.