Well, thank you, that's very nice of you to say. But I made mistakes as well. I knew, from his previous posts relating to climate science, that idestroyedthetoilet would rip into the Little Ice Age theory. And make me look like a fool, lol. I don't know if all his points were valid, but it's only because I could never speak with the authority he does on the subject of climate science.
That said, I do think we can speak of a 6th major extinction event, and not be laughed off the stage, so to speak, and I do not think global warming is a politically driven hoax. The decline of insects shown in recent studies should concern us. If studies have flaws, science is self correcting, or it ceases to be science. But even something as anecdotal as the "windshield phenomenon" is valuable and must be telling us something, I should think.
Red's post was damn good, almost all the way through. I'd call him a good scientist for the objective treatment of the subject. The comment disparaging the straw man idiocy about all scientists corruptly or evilly knowing they're lying about it, of course, merely reflects the smugness of the political hucksters who want to diss the questioning or non-conforming.
I decided we had a problem when I first heard that some folks in Massachusetts were ready to label disbelievers as "deniers". As long as this is the attitude of the warmist cult, I can't believe there is enough freedom of speech, nor enough scientists out there with the latitude to challenge the "science".
As long as the "solution" is a political treaty like the present climate accord, the measure should be fought tenaciously.
Do you deny that global overpopulation is a concern of many leaders today? Do you deny that the high-level support for illegal immigration is related to concerns about overpopulation? Getting people here where they will have Planned Parenthood help.… where there will be massive economic incentives to reduce childbearing, is one of the tools intended to curb global overpopulation. Do you deny that the Agenda 21 standards for community management are designed to prevent unmanaged populations? Do you deny that the carelessness of progressives about the health and safety of the illegal migrants is pretty much just blown off because, ultimately, we can't afford to care to save human life? Do you deny that the "sanctuary cities/states" with massive unsanitary conditions, including the homeless encampments, is not really a concern about saving human lives, but a willingness to let the situation work itself out, Darwin-style, with the callous "knowing" that overpopulation will thereby be blunted.
Just before David Rockefeller passed last year, he invited Bill Gates, George Soros, Oprah Winfrey, and some others to his place and invited them to express their views about the major problems we face in this world. Overpopulation was the hands-down biggest issue. The Ford Foundation was successful in bringing China to the one-child policy, and David Rockefeller highly praised Chairman Mao for all his actions that averted the population bomb in China.... with nary a quibble about any human rights issues.
I think we need to pay attention to the bugs, and do what it will take to end that decline....reduce pesticide use, at least. I don't like the engineered agricultural "solutions" except for say soil and water care to make good use of what we have.
But it really just gags me that nobody here is talking about the politically engineered.... planned.... massive reduction in human population.
I disagree with Bill Gates on population. I believe we can and should plan to increase human population, and plan and implement the technological and infrastructural facilities it will take to nicely employ many more humans in the quest for a better future for more of us. I don't think global warming is gonna be that dreaded extinction event, just an opportunity to develop in a better way.....
And, so..... on to the stars, my friends.