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So Long, Bugs....

Well, thank you, that's very nice of you to say. But I made mistakes as well. I knew, from his previous posts relating to climate science, that idestroyedthetoilet would rip into the Little Ice Age theory. And make me look like a fool, lol. I don't know if all his points were valid, but it's only because I could never speak with the authority he does on the subject of climate science.

That said, I do think we can speak of a 6th major extinction event, and not be laughed off the stage, so to speak, and I do not think global warming is a politically driven hoax. The decline of insects shown in recent studies should concern us. If studies have flaws, science is self correcting, or it ceases to be science. But even something as anecdotal as the "windshield phenomenon" is valuable and must be telling us something, I should think.

Red's post was damn good, almost all the way through. I'd call him a good scientist for the objective treatment of the subject. The comment disparaging the straw man idiocy about all scientists corruptly or evilly knowing they're lying about it, of course, merely reflects the smugness of the political hucksters who want to diss the questioning or non-conforming.

I decided we had a problem when I first heard that some folks in Massachusetts were ready to label disbelievers as "deniers". As long as this is the attitude of the warmist cult, I can't believe there is enough freedom of speech, nor enough scientists out there with the latitude to challenge the "science".

As long as the "solution" is a political treaty like the present climate accord, the measure should be fought tenaciously.

Do you deny that global overpopulation is a concern of many leaders today? Do you deny that the high-level support for illegal immigration is related to concerns about overpopulation? Getting people here where they will have Planned Parenthood help.… where there will be massive economic incentives to reduce childbearing, is one of the tools intended to curb global overpopulation. Do you deny that the Agenda 21 standards for community management are designed to prevent unmanaged populations? Do you deny that the carelessness of progressives about the health and safety of the illegal migrants is pretty much just blown off because, ultimately, we can't afford to care to save human life? Do you deny that the "sanctuary cities/states" with massive unsanitary conditions, including the homeless encampments, is not really a concern about saving human lives, but a willingness to let the situation work itself out, Darwin-style, with the callous "knowing" that overpopulation will thereby be blunted.

Just before David Rockefeller passed last year, he invited Bill Gates, George Soros, Oprah Winfrey, and some others to his place and invited them to express their views about the major problems we face in this world. Overpopulation was the hands-down biggest issue. The Ford Foundation was successful in bringing China to the one-child policy, and David Rockefeller highly praised Chairman Mao for all his actions that averted the population bomb in China.... with nary a quibble about any human rights issues.

I think we need to pay attention to the bugs, and do what it will take to end that decline....reduce pesticide use, at least. I don't like the engineered agricultural "solutions" except for say soil and water care to make good use of what we have.

But it really just gags me that nobody here is talking about the politically engineered.... planned.... massive reduction in human population.

I disagree with Bill Gates on population. I believe we can and should plan to increase human population, and plan and implement the technological and infrastructural facilities it will take to nicely employ many more humans in the quest for a better future for more of us. I don't think global warming is gonna be that dreaded extinction event, just an opportunity to develop in a better way.....

And, so..... on to the stars, my friends.
 
the dumbest ****ing thing ever is when opponents of climate change talk about scientists being biased because of their careers being dependent on it existing (lmao, such a reach) and conveniently ignore the much more immense bias of climate-denialism being in large part funded by the fossil fuel industry

People are generally just too complex for simple caricature. And arguments really force us to oversimply issues.

I'm sure that "fitting in" with the "in crowd" isn't always just in writing research proposals, or research reports. A lot of it goes down with coffee in the friendly cafeteria encounters.

you using a hate-speech term, designed to "otherize" a class of humans, puts you in the front seat of the next pogrom.
 
you using a hate-speech term, designed to "otherize" a class of humans, puts you in the front seat of the next pogrom.

lmao. How can the guy who constantly shouts about Marxist progressive globalists be that lacking in self-awareness. Hilarious. All your posts are about demonizing others, buddy. All of them. You talk about nothing else.
 
lmao. How can the guy who constantly shouts about Marxist progressive globalists be that lacking in self-awareness. Hilarious. All your posts are about demonizing others, buddy. All of them. You talk about nothing else.

Marxist is an objective term for people who have studied the writings of Karl Marx and/or who advocate any of Marx's assertions about economics, history, or politics. It is not "hate" speech.... except among those who hate Marx for any reason, if they are consumed with a hate for Marx, which many if not most humans today are not that affected.

Progressives, similarly, are people who are objectively defined by their "progressive" ideas, beliefs, or political advocacy. Some people might hate them, but they are themselves taking on that label, and often proud of it.

"deniers" or "global warming deniers", and almost all other people who are called "deniers" of anything, are not claiming the label or accurately defined by the constructed slur, which almost always is false in more than one of the things the accusers are asserting. It is unequivocally true hate speech.

The folks in here, including alfalfa, are generally pretty smart, if not genius in intelligence. I am simply pointing out that the loose language is not appropriate, and hoping you will choose to apply better terminologies to your arguments.

The better you do, the more fun it is for me and the more credible you will be.....
 
Marxist is an objective term for people who have studied the writings of Karl Marx and/or who advocate any of Marx's assertions about economics, history, or politics. It is not "hate" speech.... except among those who hate Marx for any reason, if they are consumed with a hate for Marx, which many if not most humans today are not that affected.

Progressives, similarly, are people who are objectively defined by their "progressive" ideas, beliefs, or political advocacy. Some people might hate them, but they are themselves taking on that label, and often proud of it.

"deniers" or "global warming deniers", and almost all other people who are called "deniers" of anything, are not claiming the label or accurately defined by the constructed slur, which almost always is false in more than one of the things the accusers are asserting. It is unequivocally true hate speech.

The folks in here, including alfalfa, are generally pretty smart, if not genius in intelligence. I am simply pointing out that the loose language is not appropriate, and hoping you will choose to apply better terminologies to your arguments.

The better you do, the more fun it is for me and the more credible you will be.....

It's the opposite. Climate change deniers is the objective term, since it refers to those who prefer to play scientists behind a computer screen and ignore all actual evidence that doesn't fit their fantasy. You should know this, being one. Your attacks on anyone who sees things differently from you as a Marxist (even those who are very capitalist, like Bulletproof) is the demonizing. Or at least it would be if you haven't done it so much, about so many different views, as to completely rob it of all meaning.
 
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