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Summer 2019 Roster Discussion

LoPo said:
I think a smart, attainable free agent could be JJ Redick. Imagine him starting at SG with Donovan at PG. And we could probably get him without sacrificing Favors. Korver has done well for us, but I believe that JJ is better pretty much across the board. He's averaging almost 18ppg this year. He isn't the type guy who can initiate offense, but he's a guy spreads the floor heavily for everybody else.

If we could put together an end of the game offensive lineup with Donovan, JJ, Korver, Joe and Gobert with Gobert setting screens, try to defend that...
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Man,have you watched him play this week without Embiid? Absolute horrific shooting performances without Embiid being there to draw the defensive attentions/setting screens. Plus he's aging towards the end of his career. Im sure we can find some young shooters in the draft like Landry Shamet this year and do the same thing for us at a much cheaper cost.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
I like JJ but he has does dumbass **** and disappears in big games.
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If he completely fails this postseason, then we would have to take that into consideration. I don't think it's necessarily his fault that Chris Paul or Blake Griffin always got hurt or Simmons is such a liability in terms of space.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
Like who? Are we gonna sign Mrotic and play him over Crowder? Find a 3 to start over Ingles? Find a legit point guard?

Satoransky makes sense if we don't 1+1 Rubio. Outside of that, I don't see an upgrade at the point either. If Satoransky is even an upgrade which he very well might not be.
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Sato will be an upgrade over Rubio. At lease for the Jazz system. Been shooting 50/40 two seasons in a row now. Pairing with him allows Beal to play his best level of basketball as the lead guard. Could very much be the same case for Mitchell.
 
jom2003 said:
Man,have you watched him play this week without Embiid? Absolute horrific shooting performances without Embiid being there to draw the defensive attentions/setting screens. Plus he's aging towards the end of his career. Im sure we can find some young shooters in the draft like Landry Shamet this year and do the same thing for us at a much cheaper cost.
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The guy isn't perfect, but the guy also won't cost $30+. I just think JJ would be a good consolation prize when we are hoping for so much more. Korver looked absolutely awful last postseason for Cleveland, but he is looking great for us so far.

If we strike out on bigger targets, keeping Favors and signing Redick makes us better than just keeping Favors and Rubio.
 
LoPo said:
The guy isn't perfect, but the guy also won't cost $30+. I just think JJ would be a good consolation prize when we are hoping for so much more. Korver looked absolutely awful last postseason for Cleveland, but he is looking great for us so far.

If we strike out on bigger targets, keeping Favors and signing Redick makes us better than just keeping Favors and Rubio.
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It‘d be more efficient looking for shooters in the draft/the G league. We've already got Korver as the “experienced shooter”. What we need right now is some fresh young players that can actually play some solid minutes. Shooting, if any thing, is the most “ready to go” skill in the NBA. Shouldn't be hard to find young players minutes if they can actually shoot.
 
jom2003 said:
It‘d be more efficient looking for shooters in the draft/the G league. We've already got Korver as the “experienced shooter”. What we need right now is some fresh young players that can actually play some solid minutes. Shooting, if any thing, is the most “ready to go” skill in the NBA. Shouldn't be hard to find young players minutes if they can actually shoot.
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Redick plays 31+mpg right now and is considered one of the best shooters in the game. Why would want to go spend money on a guy we gotta groom? And like I said before, Redick is a better player than Korver. Plus, I like what Korver brings off the bench.

The question I have is - does Redick make us much better than Rubio? I think the answer is yes.
 
LoPo said:
Redick plays 31+mpg right now and is considered one of the best shooters in the game. Why would want to go spend money on a guy we gotta groom? And like I said before, Redick is a better player than Korver. Plus, I like what Korver brings off the bench.

The question I have is - does Redick make us much better than Rubio? I think the answer is yes.
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Him being an upgrade over rubio? I'm not as sure on that as I'm on Sato. Redick doesn't have the size or lateral quickness to keep up with most of the guards in this league. He can handle the ball and make some plays occasionally, but not on a consistent basis. He is more of a threat off ball than he is on ball, which will only add more loads to Ingles and Donovan. Literally the only thing he does better than Rubio is his shooting, while in other areas he is either slightly worse or significantly worse.
 
jom2003 said:
but at least he won't be worse than Rubio. especially now that the realization of "Ricky ain't comin back" has been reached.
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I don't think that realization has been reached yet, at least not by the front office. I think the most likely outcome this offseason is picking up Favor's option and signing Rubio to a 1+1 contract pretty much identical to Favors. So we'll run it back with basically the exact same team for the second straight season.
 
Jingled said:
I don't think that realization has been reached yet, at least not by the front office. I think the most likely outcome this offseason is picking up Favor's option and signing Rubio to a 1+1 contract pretty much identical to Favors. So we'll run it back with basically the exact same team for the second straight season.
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Still depends on how we do in the playoffs though. if we can make a deep run like we did last year, could be the outcome like you said. It'd be very tough though, as most of our potential opponents have gotten better since last year.
 
jom2003 said:
Still depends on how we do in the playoffs though. if we can make a deep run like we did last year, could be the outcome like you said. It'd be very tough though, as most of our potential opponents have gotten better since last year.
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Obviously no one is beating the warriors. Utah though has a good chance against everyone else. I think they're suited against Denver cause Denver don't have really good guards and Rudy can contain the big centre. Best case scenario they play Denver in 2nd round.
 
jom2003 said:
Him being an upgrade over rubio? I'm not as sure on that as I'm on Sato. Redick doesn't have the size or lateral quickness to keep up with most of the guards in this league. He can handle the ball and make some plays occasionally, but not on a consistent basis. He is more of a threat off ball than he is on ball, which will only add more loads to Ingles and Donovan. Literally the only thing he does better than Rubio is his shooting, while in other areas he is either slightly worse or significantly worse.
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We are undefeated with Mitchell and Ingles running the offense.
- How well would a starting unit of Mitchell, Redick, Ingles, Favors and Gobert do?
- If we are trying to put Mitchell in more positions to attack the defense, wouldn't Redick spread the floor that much more? - Doesn't Gobert lead the league in screen assists and isn't Redick one of the best players in the entire league coming off screens?
 
jom2003 said:


especially Oubre, wondering why he isn't being talked about in this thread.
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#restricted

Why would Phoenix and Washington trade for these guys knowing they have their rights just to let them go? Maybe they do if we overpay, but are these guys worth an overpay?
 
Redick is a name I haven't thought about.

But I like his fit a lot, and he's probably gettable if Philly has to re-sign everyone else.

One more dude I'd be happy with.

Ingles Korver and Redick on the same team would be lit.
 
I would be down for Redick. He's a guy that I think you could get by giving him 3 years, as he's been on one-year deals the past two years (albeit one of those was a massive overpay). We need offense like crazy. Rudy is our second leading scorer. Anyone who can step in and be your second leading scorer would be welcome. If you got Redick, I'd just add Beverley (as far as guards). You'd still want to take a flyer on a guy like Jabari or give yourself some type of offensive options in your front court.
 
LoPo said:
We are undefeated with Mitchell and Ingles running the offense.
- How well would a starting unit of Mitchell, Redick, Ingles, Favors and Gobert do?
- If we are trying to put Mitchell in more positions to attack the defense, wouldn't Redick spread the floor that much more? - Doesn't Gobert lead the league in screen assists and isn't Redick one of the best players in the entire league coming off screens?
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Ingles runs the offense. Donovan closes. He's not a playmaker. HesH a shooter that is making shots. He will pass when he has no other option. He's closed great though the last 2 games. Good on him
 
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