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Ron Mexico said:
I agree, Favors has been great this year. Statistically he is our 3rd best player according to advanced stats. But I would rank him behind Mitchell. But I think he is our 3rd best player. When we have 2 guards that can shoot he is great next to Gobert and he is elite as a backup Center.
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This is why stats can be misleading. Our 3 most important players are Ingles, Gobert and Mitchell. I don't care what stat you find out there to prove otherwise, but those 3 are absolutely essential night in night out every night. Even if they are off, they create a threat which is so valuable.

Favors and Crowder are arguably 4th followed by Rubio, Korver, O'Neale, the rest.
 
Ron Mexico said:
I agree, Favors has been great this year. Statistically he is our 3rd best player according to advanced stats. But I would rank him behind Mitchell. But I think he is our 3rd best player. When we have 2 guards that can shoot he is great next to Gobert and he is elite as a backup Center.
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Gobert is a monster, but with his length he does have some limitations. I really feel like Favors is a perfect match to take more minutes against certain opponents. I have thought for a long time that Favors is one of our most important pieces and he seems to get overlooked.
 
LoPo said:
This is why stats can be misleading. Our 3 most important players are Ingles, Gobert and Mitchell. I don't care what stat you find out there to prove otherwise, but those 3 are absolutely essential night in night out every night. Even if they are off, they create a threat which is so valuable.

Favors and Crowder are arguably 4th followed by Rubio, Korver, O'Neale, the rest.
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I agree stats can be misleading. But I'm this case I disagree. I think Ingles is great but this season so far favors is the better player.. But Ingles is a close 4th for me.
 
I would say Favors is probably our third best/most talented player overall bur for this specific team I think Ingles is our third most important player. He's played more minutes than anyone this season and always plays in crunch time when the games on the line. As good as Favors has been, with the exception of the Bucks game he never closes games. It's hard to say he's our third most important player when he's sitting on the bench during the most important part of every game.
 
Jingled said:
I would say Favors is probably our third best/most talented player overall bur for this specific team I think Ingles is our third most important player. He's played more minutes than anyone this season and always plays in crunch time when the games on the line. As good as Favors has been, with the exception of the Bucks game he never closes games. It's hard to say he's our third most important player when he's sitting on the bench during the most important part of every game.
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My thoughts exactly. Good post.
 
LoPo said:
Biased as heck but also right. You gotta be out of your mind if you think Favors is more important than Ingles, Donovan or Gobert.
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Not what I meant. I was saying that you're only saying the post is good because you were going to post the same thing. Thus you are biased toward your own opinion. It was a joke. It is dead now.
 
Alfalfa said:
Not what I meant. I was saying that you're only saying the post is good because you were going to post the same thing. Thus you are biased toward your own opinion. It was a joke. It is dead now.
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I did take you too literally there.
 
I've been saying it since last season and it has been more true this season now that he's further removed from his injury but Favors has been just about the most consistent overall player this season. So while he's usually not the best player on any given night (although the past week he has had those nights and then some) he should get credit for it (his consistent positive impact).

Now does that mean he's the 3rd best player or the 3rd most important on the team? That is hard to say and quantify. He doesn't have the scoring of the 2nd year player in Mitchel but he is more efficient. He doesn't have the overall defensive impact of Gobert but still is the 2nd best defender on the team and has less offense run through or for him than Gobert and still manages to have a positive impact offensively most every night. Then Ingles, obviously Ingles has good synergy with everyone on this team but the P&R between Ingles and Favors is better and more efficient than with any other player (standing out even more so recently).

So while he doesn't or rarely gives the highs of Mitchel, Gobert or Ingles he even less rarely gives you the lows of those 3 as well. Now when considering usage rate that would explain both, he doesn't get the ball enough to get the highs or to mess up enough to get the lows but still no two ways about it IMO he has been the most consistent overall Jazz player this season.

I also think he should be used at least a little more every night ESPECIALLY on nights when Ricky or Mitchel are having one of their inefficient nights the should lighten their load by feeding Favors more and of course nights like MIL for Gobert, even though it is rare when Gobert struggles Favors should get a few more of his minutes when he (Gobert) is struggling or more if he (Favors) is having one of those good nights.
 
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