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Grayson Allen Apology Thread

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Crazy this dude has been very, very bad all year. And all of a sudden he scores more points than exum has ever scored in 5 seasons...
 
The Thriller said:
If you think I called him a bust because of a D league game then you’re lost.

Give him an off-season? He was one of the oldest rookies from the draft! Four years at Duke.

Maybe we should’ve drafted someone with a higher ceiling and younger age if we have to wait a few seasons to “be ready.”
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Joe Harris was a 4 year college player who averaged 2 points his first NBA year, and now averages 13.6 and leads the league in 3 point shooting at 47%.
There is no "magic formula" to figure this out.
 
Here’s my thing with Grayson— before these last two games, every time he was out there on important minutes he was such an obvious negative. It hurt to watch. He wasn’t even average. Other than his three point shot there was nothing that I saw that I liked.

He’s totally switched that script. Chances are he’ll still bust but for me it went from 80% odds to like 20%.
 
hahaha, only Thriller is so sure of his own evaluating talent that he'll argue with the entire on board on whether a rookie is a bust or not. A rookie that's looked like an actual NBA player for 2 games now. Not saying he's ever going to be more than a fringe rotation player, but that's about what you should expect from a pick that low.

Frankly at pick 21 just staying in the league for 3 consecutive seasons means you are not a bust. Like all the idiots claiming CJ was a bust. Here is a clue for you he wasn't, he's still in the league after the Jazz, like I said he would be during those laughable arguments with Loggrad and Thriller back then. He wasn't great for the Jazz he's never been close to great. But my argument then is that he was not a bust and that he was an NBA player. Claiming a victory in the CJ argument when he's still playing in the league 10+ years later is a stupid move by Thriller and Loggrad.
 
dalamon said:
Here’s my thing with Grayson— before these last two games, every time he was out there on important minutes he was such an obvious negative. It hurt to watch. He wasn’t even average. Other than his three point shot there was nothing that I saw that I liked.

He’s totally switched that script. Chances are he’ll still bust but for me it went from 80% odds to like 20%.
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for example-- this two game stretch is better than anythign Trey Lyles ever put together during his time with the Jazz imo.
 
I never cease to be amazed at how heated and personal things can get discussing trivial matters, such as whether the 21st pick in the draft is a bust. As for my two cents, it seems to me that the term “bust” in this case refers to performance relative to some set of expectations. It’s hard for me to imagine that anyone would have super high expectations for the 21st pick in the draft, after all, they were picked 21st for a reason. It’s rare to find rotation players this low in the draft, so if he’s not a rotation player in the end, that doesn’t mean he’s a bust, it means that he met expectations. Merely sticking in the league would meet or exceed expectations, depending on the context, while being a rotation player would greatly exceed expectations. Personally, I am not confident that Allen will ever be a rotation player, but I think there is a reasonable chance that he might stick in the league for a few years. Either way, the success or failure of the Jazz is highly unlikely to hinge on what happens with Grayson Allen.
 
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