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Grayson Allen Apology Thread

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yamers said:
I think if g allen played on a absolute *** team he could put up some numbers
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i've said the same damn thing all season. let him be getting reps all year and room/leash to fail early on, and he'd be playing as well or better than guys like huerter in ATL or okogie in minny, or on lots of other teams who weren't going to make the playoffs or teams with little guard/wing depth who may also be competing for playoff positioning.

dalamon said:
Here’s my thing with Grayson— before these last two games, every time he was out there on important minutes he was such an obvious negative. It hurt to watch. He wasn’t even average. Other than his three point shot there was nothing that I saw that I liked.

He’s totally switched that script. Chances are he’ll still bust but for me it went from 80% odds to like 20%.
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if your odds went from 80 to 20 percent, then the chances are that he actually won't bust. he's too good a shooter and all-around offensive player in my mind to bust, his problem has always been on the defensive end.
 
gregbroncs said:
hahaha, only Thriller is so sure of his own evaluating talent that he'll argue with the entire on board on whether a rookie is a bust or not. A rookie that's looked like an actual NBA player for 2 games now. Not saying he's ever going to be more than a fringe rotation player, but that's about what you should expect from a pick that low.

Frankly at pick 21 just staying in the league for 3 consecutive seasons means you are not a bust. Like all the idiots claiming CJ was a bust. Here is a clue for you he wasn't, he's still in the league after the Jazz, like I said he would be during those laughable arguments with Loggrad and Thriller back then. He wasn't great for the Jazz he's never been close to great. But my argument then is that he was not a bust and that he was an NBA player. Claiming a victory in the CJ argument when he's still playing in the league 10+ years later is a stupid move by Thriller and Loggrad.
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I never said he wouldn't be an NBA player. You downplay yours and others argument that CJ was the missing link, the next Jordan, who just needed a chance to show he was really the next GOAT. It got very stupid on that side of the argument. My claim was always that CJ would be a fringe role player at best, against all those arguing he was destined to be a perennial all Star. So who was closest in that estimation again?
 
jazzETX said:
if your odds went from 80 to 20 percent, then the chances are that he actually won't bust. he's too good a shooter and all-around offensive player in my mind to bust, his problem has always been on the defensive end.
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precisely-- I went from thinking "this dude has no chance of sticking with this team" to "hmm. could become joe harris"
 
LogGrad98 said:
I never said he wouldn't be an NBA player. You downplay yours and others argument that CJ was the missing link, the next Jordan, who just needed a chance to show he was really the next GOAT. It got very stupid on that side of the argument. My claim was always that CJ would be a fringe role player at best, against all those arguing he was destined to be a perennial all Star. So who was closest in that estimation again?
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I never said he was more than a decent role player. You and others were claiming him to be the worst player on all of those rosters. He wasn't. He was a borderline rotation player and has stayed in the rotation of NBA teams for years since. The arguments back then from the haters that he was to blame for every loss. I just went back and looked through some old threads and the vitriol shown towards him during his time here was ludicrous. Again he wasn't great, but he was better than most of the players others wanted to play instead of him. I didn't see a single post by a single person claiming more than CJ was a rotation player at best. I saw a ton saying he was trash, a bust, and needed to go for anything. So again, I was closer than the other side of the argument. There were some posts stating he had a huge upside early on with lots of potential, that was about the most positive I could find in a quick scan.

Same goes on with a lot of rookies by some members of this fan base. Claiming Grayson is a bust because he couldn't get minutes for a playoff team is stupid as well. Most 21st picks don't play, most don't last more than a few years and very few become more than serviceable rotation players. Grayson looks to have the skills and mentality to beat those odds IMO, But we'll have to see.
 
Kyoto said:
You mean a guy that has stayed in the league based on the mentality that "if he only could do x he could be great". Yeah, good argument.. lol
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What? He’s a decent spot-up shooter with an NBA body.

You really think teams are salivating about his potential at 30 years old? Save yourself the embarrassment and realize that’s as a rhetorical question.
 
NUMBERICA said:
What? He’s a decent spot-up shooter with an NBA body.

You really think teams are salivating about his potential at 30 years old? Save yourself the embarrassment and realize that’s as a rhetorical question.
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I guarantee you if you ask the various fan bases that miles has played for you will find a bunch of fans that hate him. Stop embarrassing yourself defending CJ miles lol
 
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