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Did We Give Up on Kanter and Hood Too Soon

Wes Mantooth said:
I’m gonna say this and I hope I’m wrong or proven wrong. I love Quin. He’s a top 10 coach in my eyes and maybe top 5. But I think he’s really ****ing intense. Too consistently. He does seem to have a sense of humor but even then there’s an intensity to him.

It concerns me because I feel as a coach there are times you need to use a very human element and calm the players, or at other times, pull them aside and give them a vote of confidence. I definitely think he attempts to do things like this if you watch him over the course of a game but there’s so much intensity all the time. I never see him taking a step back and taking a different approach and humanizing himself more in order to reach those players.

It was a concern to me when he was hired (he was known for this intensity wearing on players and teams) and it’s a slight concern to me now.

Having read an interesting article about the Blazers coaching staff and how they’ve worked hard with Lillard on emotional intelligence over the last year or so, I feel it’s something Quin himself and the players could use. To me they’re interrelated.
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I think Quinn does excels with certain personalities you could call Jazz type DNA. I think Sloan also had this same characteristic. I don't know if it's the best all the time, but I do enjoy his style.
 
If you guys think this is bad just imagine what would happen with Exum in 3 - 5 years time if the Jazz traded him like half the board wants and he got himself healthy with another team and actually strung together a couple of seasons.
 
Sandman822 said:
If you guys think this is bad just imagine what would happen with Exum in 3 - 5 years time if the Jazz traded him like half the board wants and he got himself healthy with another team and actually strung together a couple of seasons.
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Kanter was always great around the basket.
Hood was always a pretty decent outside shooter.

What does Exum do well offensively? Running 100 mph into the paint and throwing the ball at the backboard as hard as he can before crashing into the stand?
 
Sandman822 said:
If you guys think this is bad just imagine what would happen with Exum in 3 - 5 years time if the Jazz traded him like half the board wants and he got himself healthy with another team and actually strung together a couple of seasons.
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Regardless of what these other people are saying, Exum is going to be an NBA player...someday. Should we do whatever it takes to keep him until that day? Because that's what this thread is about.

Kanter had a bad attitude and played NO defense on a team that was all about creating a defensive identity. He wasn't on-board with the team concept. He wasn't improving year over year. He didn't seem to want to be here. We had Gobert and Favors who seemed ready to do more than he was doing. We decided NOT to give him a MEGA payday. It was the right decision.

Hood was supposed to be our primary scorer after Haywood left (If national media calls you Haywood enough times that's you're common law name, right?). The opening chapter in the Legend of Donovan Mitchell is that in the first game of Mitchell's rookie season he started because our primary scorer was banging down turds in the painted area of the locker room *****er. Hood was scoring nothing butt net on the toilet while Mitchell was introducing himself to the NBA. Hood never stepped up to be the player we needed him to be. He has never been that player on any team. He came in late in a multi-overtime game with fresh legs and looked a little better than guys who had all played more than 50min, some of them over 60min.

If that's the standard for keeping guys than Exum is a no-brainer. Do whatever it takes. If we let him walk we'll watch him enter as the 9th man for a playoff team in triple overtime and repeatedly blow by his defender and look like the beast player that has ever been while securing the win. And then there will be a new thread on jazzfanz...
 
mellow said:
Hood at 7 million per is great. Hood at 70 million over 4 years kills you. Jazz and Rodney didn't agree on compensation, it was a crappy situation, but both sides had to move on.
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He and Cleveland didn't agree either, which is why he is on a 1 year deal for cheap. I hope the guy eventually gets paid and no hard feelings that he wanted to. Kanter OTOH is big headed trash.
 
They both wanted out of Utah so we traded them. Kanter was a twit about it just like he was in New York which really hurt our ability to get something good. Players don't do well in situations where they want out. I would be happy to get Hood back as a bench player but not going to happen at this point.
 
No. Both were disgruntled and causing problems. Kanter publicly and Hood behind the scenes. Furthermore neither would have made any difference to the outcome of the Houston series.
 
To the OP, who seems to forget pretty easily: you are making the wrong question. Should be: Did Hood & Kanter give up on us too soon?

Moron Kanter wanted a bigger role, even though he was playing 27MPG. He thought he was being slow down. And he demanded a trade.

Same with Hood, who thought he was a first or second offensive option. Plus, he wanted big money. According to several reports (Tony Jones among them), the situation got really bad in the locker room. So we shipped him out for a more durable, gritty player in Crowder (not as good as a shooter though). Had Hood accepted a 6th man role (and that type of money), he would probably still be here.

Their career trajectories, as Favors said some days ago, shows that the grass is not always greener elsewhere.
 
latin jazz said:
Their career trajectories, as Favors said some days ago, shows that the grass is not always greener elsewhere.
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Blazers beat Denver today their in a commanding spot to get to the Western Conference Finals while playing key roles in the Blazers getting there. Grass has got to be looking greener from where their at.
 
homeytennis said:
I know Kanter is like the WWE bad guy in the valley, but he is playing like a boss for Portland with a separated shoulder. Hood hit the game winner last night and Spidey's and Rudy's tweets expressed love and happiness for the guy. Basically Portland got both guys out of dumpsters this year. I know salary cap and all but man we could have used both these guys vs Houston.
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Yes, and we got nothing for the both.

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Problem is they are both very one dimensional. In a right system and for limited minutes they can be useful for sure.
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I think it has more to do with playing for the right coach ……..it's always been obvious Kanter and Hood had the talent to play and now with Stotts their playing great basketball. And limited minutes …. duh.... Kanter played 56 minutes in a Playoff basketball game. If Kanter and Hood keep succeeding then the great teacher of young talent Snyder didn't know how to bring out the best basketball in both Kanter and Hood. Now I wonder if Exum and Favors will be the next high draft choices of the Jazz that leave Utah and play better basketball when away from Snyder.
 
tleikheen said:
Both 26 years old and playing big in primetime ,the Playoffs.........too bad the Jazz players couldn't perform when the bright lights shined on them.
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Different system. Hood couldn't handle the pressure or the minutes. Kanter didn't want to be here. Favors was way better than him too.
 
tleikheen said:
Blazers beat Denver today their in a commanding spot to get to the Western Conference Finals while playing key roles in the Blazers getting there. Grass has got to be looking greener from where their at.
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They are role players on the Blazers, don't fool yourself. One forced to play more minutes due to injury to the starting center, the other had the chance to play meaningful minutes in a 4OT. And as I said, I'm looking at their career trajectories, not their last game. Both thought they were starting material or even stars (a 'generational player' Kanter's agent called him; Hood thought he was ready to be our leading scorer and alpha dog). Both ended up being role players in terrible teams (Knicks, Cavs). That doesn't mean they can't contribute on a good team, but they are what they are: role players.
 
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