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Dennis Lindsey promoted to VP of basketball operations. Justin Zanik promoted to GM

If he did leave it wouldn't be for long. Dude is like a yo yo.

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The Milwaukee situation was a weird circumstance. He was supposed to take over as GM, but ownership unexpectedly chose Jon Horst instead. According to Zach Lowe, Philly wine an dined Zanik like 10 times and really wanted to hire him. He would have been a very hot commodity this summer, and I think the Jazz were smart to keep him on board.
 


Was he ever the agent for one of these big-time players?


Not sure. But this makes some sense to me. KOC is purely a consultant at this point, DL still gets sway (screw those who say this a demotion) and a pay raise, Zanik gets a promotion, and Utah makes some FO adjustments for a huge offseason. I'm not sure who Zanik's clients were, but he was a VP of BB Ops in Europe, an agent for 10 years, got some run with the Jazz as a Ast. GM, did the same with Milwaukee, then came back. Dude was going to get a GM job somewhere (got run for the Wizards, Sixers, Cavs, and Bucks GM positions), so this solves a few problems at once.

I also see this as the Jazz prepping for genuinely retooling the roster this off season with some specific targets in mind. Whether that's Middleton or someone else, who knows. But the key here is that Zanik was a player rep for 10 years. You don't do that for a decade without knowing how to connect with them on some level, and the networking that goes into it to be successful on some level. To me, this is the Jazz attempting to address a weakness (FA acquisition), keep good talent happy by recognizing game, demonstrates to the league how the Jazz operate, and (coincidentally) shows how much of a lolcow the Lakers really are.
 
Why would you want Lindsey in charge of the draft?

Look what he has done in the draft:

DL draft:


2012: Kevin Murphy

2013: traded 14 and 20 picks for Trey Burke. Could of had Giannis and Gobert. Jazz bought in to the first round for Gobert.

2014: Exum, Hood

2015: Lyles (traded for Mitchell), Hanlan, Diez,

2016: traded pick to Atl for Hill.

2017: Denver offered Mitchell to Utah for Lyles and a first. Traded the pick that became Josh Hart for Bradley.

2018: Allen


Out of 13 picks he has two players. Gobert and Mitchell who are amazing players. But, if not for Sloan we wouldn’t have Gobert and if DL thought Gobert was going to be this good he would have drafted him at 14 or 20 and not traded those picks for Burke.


And Denver called us and offered us Mitchell for Lyles and DL said yes.


So his two good picks were more luck than skill.

But you gotta compare his record to other GM’s in the same period - i would think his strike rate would be pretty reasonable in comparison. Every GM has misses.


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Again, players are hardly close with second banana front office staff.
Zanik throws parties at his beach house in San Diego every year that many NBA players attend. There’s even a saying of “What happens at Zanik’s stays at Zanik’s.” He’s well connected and NBA players love him like a brother.
 
Silly bozo. Lol, ded people don’t raise.

Your husband re-signed a bust player. Did he sell you on his athleticism and potential ? Traded for a senior citizen. And forsaken us a deeper playoff run by not throwing in that same scrub to get Conley. Guess you like the DL koolaid and mediocrity. I don't, that's why I wanted him fired. He won't get fired as you predicted but if no free agents are signed , horrible trades are made and a bad pick Is made, then we can't go after your husband and blame him. So he lives to see another day at the office. Thanks to gullible fans like you that believe him and his conservative ways. Did you buy that there weren't any available deals? or he couldn't convince anyone to come here ? How about let's just keep what we have and stand pat? It's only gonna make us better? Letting Niko go to another for nearly nothing, not getting Conley not trying to get Porter Jr. or Jabari? Great work yet again It's dumbos like you that kept him employed so long.

You must like Koc too you loser. Lol

Congrats once again on your husband's promotion.

Acknowledge the facts and the proper perspective before you start the name calling. I'm glad DL will distance himself a tad from the hands on development of this franchise because he wasn't good at it. If he didn't luck out with Mitchell his tenure as GM was a failure but to some like you it was a success.
 
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Exit interviews and all twitter chatter from Jazz beat writers say this is the case. I see nothing to indicate otherwise.

Trust me I seen it all, he is hurt by the trade rumblings. Im just saying he might be an unfortunate option if we strike out on all our other targets.
 
I agree with some of those criticisms... I think he is a good GM but people act like he walks on water. He did not properly assess nba salary cap landscape multiple times. Hayward negotiation was part of that but also not signing free agents, or offering anything meaningful, for guys the year before the cap exploded. A few of the guys we are trying to get this summer were guys that signed bargain deals (that seemed like overpays to those that didn't know the lay of the land) and we didn't do anything. What do we have to show for all the powder we saved those years? Booker, Diaw, , joe Johnson, Thabo, Jerebko, Favs on duct tape one or two year deals. I don't know that we could have signed Middleton or Harris, but we could have offered more than they accepted.

My biggest criticisms of DL are:

- The over conservative cap approach... the powder is so dry, but it does no good if you never use it. This is the big one for me.
- Selling second round picks (small quibble, but you hit on one of those picks and it changes your franchise... why not take a swing?)
- Drafting of Tony Bradley... never made sense at all. Makes less sense now... several guys around that range could have really helped. It's a late first so no big deal I guess.
- Not taking the low hanging fruit that would improve the team... we know we need a stretch four, we know we need more shooting, and yet we don't make the necessary changes. Hanging on to ill fitting pieces to get more data... when the data is conclusive enough already.

What about the incredible drain of assets we've experienced through the Point Guard position? DL may be good at a lot of things, but the dude appears to suck *** at PG.
 
Yes. He has been on 5 teams in 7 seasons. That worries me.

Seems to be more circumstance than anything. No reports of him being a bad egg

He's a finalist for this year's NBA Community Assist Award.

He seems like a good person that does not always mean winning player though. That is cool to be finalist the NBA Community Assist Award but that does not mean he helps you win.

On paper he looks like a good player and watching him play he is okay. But teams dont really seem to improve when he joins them. Teams also dont seem to get worse when he leaves. Arguably a few have gotten better without him. That is what concerns me. But he has improved a lot each year so he might be trending up still and getting over that.
 
My take is that this is more about promoting DL. He seems like a big picture guy who wants his hand in everything. VPoBO seems like a position better suited for him and frees him up from the grind of dealing with players and agents.
 
My take is that this is more about promoting DL. He seems like a big picture guy who wants his hand in everything. VPoBO seems like a position better suited for him and frees him up from the grind of dealing with players and agents.
What can DL as EVPoBO that he couldn’t/didn’t do as GM? I mean, he has been functioning in KOC’s capacity, which that was his title (sans the ‘executive’). I kinda view this like the really awkward Joe Rogan twitter interview where Jack Dorsey just sat there quiet while it was clear the other woman was there to be his voice while affording him a quasi-scapegoat.
 
What can DL as EVPoBO that he couldn’t/didn’t do as GM? I mean, he has been functioning in KOC’s capacity, which that was his title (sans the ‘executive’). I kinda view this like the really awkward Joe Rogan twitter interview where Jack Dorsey just sat there quiet while it was clear the other woman was there to be his voice while affording him a quasi-scapegoat.
I think it just frees him up from the micromanaging task that come with being a GM. He probably won't scout as much, won't deal with players 1 on 1 as much, won't deal with agents as much, etc. He can focus more on refining how the Jazz operate.

And now Zanick will have final say on personnel decisions.
 
And now Zanick will have final say on personnel decisions.
Will he? That’s the most important part of being a higher up is to make personnel decisions. That would be DL relinquishing control so that he can focus on issues that are much less important.
 
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