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Summer 2019 Roster Discussion

Frank Kaminsky linked to Milwaukee....so there is another prime Jazz target off the board.*


* Parts of this post may include sarcasm.
 
LoPo said:
You make some good points.

I think Randle gets 3 years $60 million. Maybe 4 years $70, but hard to tell. There are so many teams with max and multiple max space. He is a top 10 free agent this summer due to age, production and potential.

Jabari is a mystery. I was shocked he got $20 last year when there was less money available. I think he definitely gets $10+ which is over the MLE. The risk is worth it.

I wouldn't take Mirotic unless it's a bargain. I don't think he is much more than just a shooter with suspect defense when it gets to playoff time. If he gets $15+ over many years, he will be the next Ryan Anderson before long.

If we strike out on Tobias, Randle, and Jabari, I could be fine with Crowder, O'Neale, Ingles, Niang and a draft pick platooning PF. We just have to improve PG if that happens.

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Disagree on Jabari... I don't think he's a mystery. He still has some upside, but I'm guessing he gets a prove it deal.

Niko has more to his game than Ryno did, but if Ryno was still making shots he'd be getting playing time... he stopped making shots. I wouldn't pay Niko more than $15M though so I agree.

There is a fair amount of cap space out there... but the number of teams with space has been exaggerated. Indiana is a great example. They don't have space unless the renounce Thad and Bojan… both of which they'd like to keep. Phoenix doesn't have space. Knicks, Lakers, and Clippers are looking at going after big dogs... Atlanta has space but I'm not sure they are at the point where they use that space on players. Bulls have like 19M... but its really Indiana (on Tobias and Bojan), Dallas, Brooklyn, Sacramento that we will be competing against. There are also a lot of free agents so guys in the middle/upper tiers may settle quickly in order to secure the bag rather than waiting it out to get an extra 10-20%.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Disagree on Jabari... I don't think he's a mystery. He still has some upside, but I'm guessing he gets a prove it deal.

Niko has more to his game than Ryno did, but if Ryno was still making shots he'd be getting playing time... he stopped making shots. I wouldn't pay Niko more than $15M though so I agree.

There is a fair amount of cap space out there... but the number of teams with space has been exaggerated. Indiana is a great example. They don't have space unless the renounce Thad and Bojan… both of which they'd like to keep. Phoenix doesn't have space. Knicks, Lakers, and Clippers are looking at going after big dogs... Atlanta has space but I'm not sure they are at the point where they use that space on players. Bulls have like 19M... but its really Indiana (on Tobias and Bojan), Dallas, Brooklyn, Sacramento that we will be competing against. There are also a lot of free agents so guys in the middle/upper tiers may settle quickly in order to secure the bag rather than waiting it out to get an extra 10-20%.
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I think at this point Niko will be lucky to get over 10 million a year, if that. He was playing behind career journeyman Ersan Illyasova in the playoffs.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
I think at this point Niko will be lucky to get over 10 million a year, if that. He was playing behind career journeyman Ersan Illyasova in the playoffs.
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Maybe... think Bud was riding the hot hand and benching the cold one. At 8-10M I'd be all over that.
 
I could see Niko getting up to about 12M. Depends on the team and fit. If we lose out on Harris, Id probably throw a 4/35 at him. I think it’s a little low but it seems he had interest in playing here previously so he may accept it.

I’d start Crowder though (unless we traded him) and bring Niko in around the 4-5 minute mark in the 1st.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Disagree on Jabari... I don't think he's a mystery. He still has some upside, but I'm guessing he gets a prove it deal.

Niko has more to his game than Ryno did, but if Ryno was still making shots he'd be getting playing time... he stopped making shots. I wouldn't pay Niko more than $15M though so I agree.

There is a fair amount of cap space out there... but the number of teams with space has been exaggerated. Indiana is a great example. They don't have space unless the renounce Thad and Bojan… both of which they'd like to keep. Phoenix doesn't have space. Knicks, Lakers, and Clippers are looking at going after big dogs... Atlanta has space but I'm not sure they are at the point where they use that space on players. Bulls have like 19M... but its really Indiana (on Tobias and Bojan), Dallas, Brooklyn, Sacramento that we will be competing against. There are also a lot of free agents so guys in the middle/upper tiers may settle quickly in order to secure the bag rather than waiting it out to get an extra 10-20%.
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Suns don't have space? Lol, poor bastards

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LoPo said:
Because this thread was created for the exact purpose of discussing the summer 2019 info. Still, 10 other summer 2019 threads were started.

Just put it all here. Makes more sense.

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How arrogant or delusional does someone have to be to think that they’re the first or only person to bring up an offseason discussion?
 
NUMBERICA said:
How arrogant or delusional does someone have to be to think that they’re the first or only person to bring up an offseason discussion?
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Its not arrogance. It's logical. It's called the off-season thread.

I don't care. Just put it all together. It's not this thread and another. There are like 10

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LoPo said:
Its not arrogance. It's logical. It's called the off-season thread.

I don't care. Just put it all together. It's not this thread and another. There are like 10

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You obviously do care or you wouldn’t have bumped a dead thread then gone into another thread to advertise your dead thread.

In 11 years of wasting time on this site, I have never seen anything like it.
 
mellow said:
So I'll just drop this in both threads then I guess?

Former EuroLeague champion and Final Four MVP Ekpe Udoh is considering making a comeback in Europe. According to Eurohoops sources, Udoh has been mulling over several big multiyear offers he has in his hands by EuroLeague powerhouses. If the 32-year-old center accepts any of these proposals, he will return to the competition after spending the last two seasons in the NBA with the Utah Jazz.
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Good. I like Ekpe. He genuinely seems like an amazing person. He was a star over in Europe and a 3rd center here in the NBA. I think he’s a guy that’s as interested in the experience as he is the money. I could see him going back in Europe.
 
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NUMBERICA said:
You obviously do care or you wouldn’t have bumped a dead thread then gone into another thread to advertise your dead thread.

In 11 years of wasting time on this site, I have never seen anything like it.
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Well, I mean, our resident pouty bitch who threatens leaving all the time, has gone years back into the draft prospect threads and edited what he said or deleted posts, all to make himself look smarter than he is.
 
Utah needs to offer D'Angelo Russell the max the first second their allowed to. Anyone who says otherwise is dumb.


Then u gotta hope the Nets land Kyrie, and i guess, KD..... And Utah gets 23 yo All star Russell outa thin air...

That is the dream scenario..
 
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