Rudy Gobert "Greatest Jazz Center of All Time" Countdown Thread

[lauriandres]

Ostertag was good for a long time, and great for a short time (maybe 2 seasons).
Eaton was very, very good for a long time, with brief period of greatness.
Gobert has been good, very good, great, and then... phenomenal.

I have not seen Eaton playing either live or video; i know it is hard to measure, but how many games he had during his career which were won by his extraordinary plays (mainly defense). A la similar to games by Ostertag and Foster against Lakers and Rockets during the 96/97 and 97/98 playoffs and Memo games against Rockets?

 

[416Klawzz]

Neither of those guys were even close to the worst. Read the thread. Stuff has been quantified.

Sloan would always attack Greg. His purpose was to grab boards and block shots yet got dunked on and posterized constantly. If he was good we wouldn't have wanted seikaly. If only we had a decent center , we might have had a ring. many ostertag supporters on here but again he wasn't great and got paid .

 

[Deleted member 95]

Gobert is the best of all time , then Eaton. Ostrichrag was the worst by leaps and bounds (was absolutely worthless) Honorable mention Handlogten.

Watch you mouth when talking about my boy tag, ya hear!

 

[416Klawzz]

Watch you mouth when talking about my boy tag, ya hear!

Spell his name correctly Ostrichrag

 

[One Brow]

In other words, he had more blocks by himself than the average team?

Yes.

 

[silesian]

Ostertag was good for a long time, and great for a short time (maybe 2 seasons).

I'm not a Tag hater, but he was never great

 

[Gameface]

It's about time to end this thread and start the "Rudy Gobert Greatest NBA Center of All-Time" thread.

 

[checkbookdoc]

Eaton>Gobert and it is not even close!
I might concede that Rudy's peak is probably higher, but even if that is true he is way behind Eaton for two reasons:
1) Eaton played more that twice the regular season minutes, and almost three times the playoff minutes.
2) Eaton played his entire career for the Jazz, so there is no questioning his commitment and loyalty. Rudy hasn't had the opportunity to leave so we don't know what will happen. If Rudy leaves next FA period, then Mark will retain his spot as King of the Jazz Centers.

 

[fishonjazz]

Eaton>Gobert and it is not even close!
I might concede that Rudy's peak is probably higher, but even if that is true he is way behind Eaton for two reasons:
1) Eaton played more that twice the regular season minutes, and almost three times the playoff minutes.
2) Eaton played his entire career for the Jazz, so there is no questioning his commitment and loyalty. Rudy hasn't had the opportunity to leave so we don't know what will happen. If Rudy leaves next FA period, then Mark will retain his spot as King of the Jazz Centers.

Regarding #2, loyalty has nothing to do with greatness/talent. Like Shaq is better than Eaton even though he didn't play for only one franchise.

The jazz could give me a contract and I would never leave and play my whole career there if they would let me. I would still be a really crappy NBA player though.

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[infection]

The jazz could give me a contract and I would never leave and play my whole career there if they would let me. I would still be a really crappy NBA player though.

We've had worse.

 

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

Ostertag was a good player, the only problem was his head wasn’t always in it. When he was on he was spectacular, but that was sporadic at best. A lot of the time he was off in dream land. I think he was mostly just happy and content being in the nba and making money.

That’s why he and Jerry Sloan had such a love hate relationship

 

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

I’ll say one thing for sure, Ostertag was miles better then that big stupid Fes!!

 

[One Brow]

Ironically, I think that Favors is still ahead of him due to a several year head start. Now that Favors is not an active Jazzman, Gobert should catch him pretty quickly.

On the first page, you still have Gobert at #15, from back in 2017. No change since then?

 

[Udidthizz]

Gobert is the best of all time , then Eaton. Ostrichrag was the worst by leaps and bounds (was absolutely worthless) Honorable mention Handlogten.

Everybody remembers Stockton taking over, but Ostertag had 16 points, 14 rebounds and a few blocks whilst holding Olajuwon in check in game 6 of the 97 WCF. My man Greg deserves some respect for being instrumental in getting us to the finals for the first time (honourable mention to Bryon (don’t call me Byron) Russell, who hit a couple of critical 3 pointers late in the 4th)

 

[Udidthizz]

And the disrespect to Rony Seikaly...

 

[416Klawzz]

Everybody remembers Stockton taking over, but Ostertag had 16 points, 14 rebounds and a few blocks whilst holding Olajuwon in check in game 6 of the 97 WCF. My man Greg deserves some respect for being instrumental in getting us to the finals for the first time (honourable mention to Bryon (don’t call me Byron) Russell, who hit a couple of critical 3 pointers late in the 4th)

I realize that but more people remember his ability to travel and punt balls lol

 

[Elizah Huge]

Ostertag was a good player, the only problem was his head wasn’t always in it. When he was on he was spectacular, but that was sporadic at best. A lot of the time he was off in dream land. I think he was mostly just happy and content being in the nba and making money.

That’s why he and Jerry Sloan had such a love hate relationship

Everybody remembers Stockton taking over, but Ostertag had 16 points, 14 rebounds and a few blocks whilst holding Olajuwon in check in game 6 of the 97 WCF. My man Greg deserves some respect for being instrumental in getting us to the finals for the first time (honourable mention to Bryon (don’t call me Byron) Russell, who hit a couple of critical 3 pointers late in the 4th)

Ostertag had his moments but he was a big reason why we never got over the hump. He was the reason why we traded for Seikaly. Sucks cause we would have won if he didn’t refuse to come here.

 

[checkbookdoc]

Regarding #2, loyalty has nothing to do with greatness/talent. Like Shaq is better than Eaton even though he didn't play for only one franchise.

The jazz could give me a contract and I would never leave and play my whole career there if they would let me. I would still be a really crappy NBA player though.

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I thought we were ranking them as greatest JAZZ centers, not just greatest centers who spent anytime on the jazz. Otherwise, I think the correct answer is Walt Bellamy (4x all-star, ROY, 20/14 career average, Hall of Fame).

Everyone gets to define as they like, so for me being loyal or team success serves as a multiplier. For this reason I have Jeff Hornacek higher on the totem pole of Jazz players than Hayward (even though Hayward was a better player).

 

[infection]

Ostertag had his moments but he was a big reason why we never got over the hump. He was the reason why we traded for Seikaly. Sucks cause we would have won if he didn’t refuse to come here.

He's a DJ now.



He coulda been spinning records with a ring.

 

[framer]

On the first page, you still have Gobert at #15, from back in 2017. No change since then?

Without looking he is easily top 4, with Memo, Favors, and Eaton possibly still in front of him. It would be close with Memo though.