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Trump’s Dividing of America

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Communist!

Nazi!

Socialist!

Racist!


Ahh, filled my desire for politics for the day. Thanks Jazzfanz!! Record time.
 
The Thriller said:
Correct

And the rich conservative ruling class laid down, enabling Hitler because:

A. They could use him for their own (selfish) financial benefit.

B. The rich conservative ruling class thought they could control Hitler. Until they couldn’t. I know the Mercer’s, Kochs, Adelsons, etc think these tax cuts and judges are worth it. But the long-term damage they’re enabling will come back ultimately to bite them in the ***.

Until he took over the political, military, and media organizations. You can see that happening right now with Trump. He has politicized nearly every aspect of our lives, including holidays now. And this isn’t even limited to Hitler.

All autocrats follow a similar pattern. Create an identity crisis, find an outsider to rally against, gaslight, become the “tough guy”, and kill the democratic process in government of multi-parties and multiple views. His recent attacks on Democrats who have criticized his administration is just more evidence of him exerting authoritarian power. Rather than listen to their concerns he told them to leave the country.

Sadly, I don’t think we have learned as well from history as we should.
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Great post.
 
Stoked said:
Communist!

Nazi!

Socialist!

Racist!


Ahh, filled my desire for politics for the day. Thanks Jazzfanz!! Record time.
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Hey Stoked, don't act like we're the ones that have lost our marbles. Don't be a Nazi.
 
str8line said:
STFU Blowme. I don't engage Nazi's. If I wanted to hear your type of spew I'd listen for my dog's fart.
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LOL, that was hilariously disrespectful.

Heathme, this is what your contributions to the board amount to. Step it up son. Disappointing :(
 
Heathme said:
Trump is Hitler?
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Well, I know I never said that at all. I know I pointed out conditions that can exist within societies that can contribute to the rise to power of authoritarian nationalists.

I'll say this to anyone else following this thread, because I waste my time addressing you at all: Thriller, and myself, are speaking as long time students of history. That is the perspective we are advancing here. And, I forget who said this, maybe Mark Twain(?), to the effect "history doesn't repeat, but it rhymes".

I am just seeing the conditions within a mass democracy that can lead to the appearance of leaders able, and willing, to marshal the fears and anxieties of segments of their societies to their advantage. And I think that is what Trump did. It isn't my fault if it's possible to examine the past and notice that similar circumstances in earlier societies led to the appearance of a cynical authoritarian. I can't unlearn my education, as a lifelong student of Western history. What I can do is do my best to apply what I learned to simply offer a certain perspective, a point of view. If you don't learn from the mistakes of the past, yada, yada, yada.

I can only assume, at this point, that folks like @Heathme will ignore all this and simply state that the message is Trump=Hitler. He cannot grasp what is being said here.
 
Red said:
Well, I know I never said that at all. I know I pointed out conditions that can exist within societies that can contribute to the rise to power of authoritarian nationalists.

I'll say this to anyone else following this thread, because I waste my time addressing you at all: Thriller, and myself, are speaking as long time students of history. That is the perspective we are advancing here. And, I forget who said this, maybe Mark Twain(?), to the effect "history doesn't repeat, but it rhymes".

I am just seeing the conditions within a mass democracy that can lead to the appearance of leaders able, and willing, to marshal the fears and anxieties of segments of their societies to their advantage. And I think that is what Trump did. It isn't my fault if it's possible to examine the past and notice that similar circumstances in earlier societies led to the appearance of a cynical authoritarian. I can't unlearn my education, as a lifelong student of Western history. What I can do is do my best to apply what I learned to simply offer a certain perspective, a point of view. If you don't learn from the mistakes of the past, yada, yada, yada.

I can only assume, at this point, that folks like @Heathme will ignore all this and simply state that the message is Trump=Hitler. He cannot grasp what is being said here.
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Yep, I can grasp it. Fortunately for us we live in America with two other branches of government and checks and balances. If an actual authoritarian came into power he would get voted out or removed from office.

Would you guys give up on the ridiculous Hitler and Nazi comparisons? It is just so dumb. It is so disrespectful to those that actually suffered in Nazi Germany.
 
Heathme said:
Yep, I can grasp it. Fortunately for us we live in America with two other branches of government and checks and balances. If an actual authoritarian came into power he would get voted out or removed from office.

Would you guys give up on the ridiculous Hitler and Nazi comparisons? It is just so dumb. It is so disrespectful to those that actually suffered in Nazi Germany.
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Of course, this is assuming that the branch of government tasked with acting as a check on the executive is willing and able to provide it. Thus far congress has fallen pretty short on that account.
 
Heathme said:
Yep, I can grasp it. Fortunately for us we live in America with two other branches of government and checks and balances. If an actual authoritarian came into power he would get voted out or removed from office.

Would you guys give up on the ridiculous Hitler and Nazi comparisons? It is just so dumb. It is so disrespectful to those that actually suffered in Nazi Germany.
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Analyzing the past, especially world war II, is something society has been over many times. It's not arguable that there are traits and actions society is taking under his direction that are similar. And it seems to be getting closer, not further away, from the same path.
 
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