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jazzrule said:
You said "overwhelming scientific evidence that this pesticide harms children’s brains," You may be 100% correct, but after seeing what scientist said about climate change who knows. What is your stance on teenagers smoking marijuana? There is scientific evidence coming out teenagers smoking marijuana
harms their brains as well.
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Speaking as one who has worked in biochemical research labs, who once aspired to become a medicinal chemist, and as one who has worked in various labs of all kinds as a consultant addressing issues faced in manufacture or industrial production.....

This is a really, really stupid thing our Trump administration has done.

Thank God, the states actually have the Constitutional authority to protect their citizens. Let's abolish the EPA and eliminate the convenience federal governance provides for the insidious manipulations of corporate fascists who, instead of having to corrupt local government officials scattered all over the country, can just sit in their Washington, DC offices and buy off a few federal bureaucrats and lawmakers.
 
Red said:
Yeah, whatever, @babe. Most of the time I can't follow your reasoning anyway. Why should now be any different? Reject any "thesis" of mine to your heart's content. I just want a better future for humanity. I have never sat down and asked myself "what is my political philosophy? What is my social philosophy". I just go about life being myself. I recall a Native American leader once said, I'm sure a paraphrase here, "the white man thinks with his head, the red man thinks with his heart". I do my best to think and listen with my heart, so that I might understand the right and wrong of any situation I encounter. That's my whole approach, to listen with, and think with, my heart. Life is a morality play, and I am in this world but a short time. I do the best that I can do....
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yah just gotta stop being so stupid.

I don't disagree with your heart, just your credulity.

If I ever learned anything from Mormons, it is that good intentions are no excuse for anything.

So, actually, you have no actual "thesis" personally, but because of your soft logic and zealousy for emotional "goods", you drift along with the uninformed and inaccurate....and wrong.... people.

Well, I don't know what to say. Whether you're a case of "needing to break eggs" to make an omelet, or "you can't teach an old dog new tricks".

No matter what age we are, there are in fact things that are true, and there are in fact liars who see some personal gain in denying those truths. And we are always better people if we choose to stand for the truth we know.
 
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Red said:
Well, you're speaking to an old head. it was always a question of experimenting with other states of consciousness in order to explore other ways of interfacing with reality, with the universe. I support my own cognitive liberty: "Cognitive liberty, or the "right to mental self-determination", is the freedom of an individual to control his or her own mental processes, cognition, and consciousness. It has been argued to be both an extension of, and the principle underlying, the right to freedom of thought". (That's Wikipedia of course)

But, not everyone can be mature, and curious about consciousness, as I was. Some just wanna get stoned. Haha. Me too. Haha. So, go easy, and don't abuse it. Everything in moderation.
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Well, look at what happens to the peyote cult of native Americans.

logic would suggest that anything known to affect actual brain functions would be most likely detrimental rather than beneficial.

You don't understand the actual facts of cannabinoids. In nature, in our development, we make our own cannabinoids via regulated..... biochemical feedback..... mechanisms...., which govern our brain development in certain respects.

When you use closely-related cannabinoids, you are doing yourself harm by introducing unregulated amounts of bioactive substances which are known to adversely affect neuronal interconnections required for mature good sense. The harm comes from impaired development. Mostly, younger and more rapidly developing people..... but we never absolutely lose this kind of development. It still goes on in mature people who are needing to learn new things. It would be better if we could keep this development more active, whatever our age.

Well, OK, so here is a root problem of JazzFanz community. A root problem of a whole generation of Americans. A generation of impaired folks who perhaps can never really achieve mature good sense.

Probably explains the unbalanced emotionality in our political discussions.
 
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Red said:
Someone, I wonder who, is gonna tell me the president of Brazil is the best thing to happen since Donald Trump, and this is a wonderful thing he's doing. But I'll still call it madness....

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yah.... trees are pretty good. We should plant two for every one we take down.

The whole idea of agriculture, however, is to increase the biosphere via management.....we plant stuff, help it grow. I'm not sure what crops actually do more photosynthesis per unit area than forests, but corn would be a good guess.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smar...iologically-productive-place-earth-180950460/

I bet they can grow corn all year round in the Amazon.

We should plant more trees where ever they can grow, where ever they can increase our net biosphere.
 
Read the scriptures.
The earth will be renewed for the millennial day.

  1. The earth will be transfigured and receive its paradisiacal glory (see D&C 63:20–21; Articles of Faith 1:10; Isaiah 65:17; 2 Peter 3:10–14).
    God knows what we are doing to earth and he will fix it when He comes. You liberals want to put all these restrictions on the United States, while letting China, India and many other countries pollute away. Take away our cars, planes, fossil fuels, etc. and see how quick the United States is ruled by other countries. Common sense people.
 
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jazzrule said:
Read the scriptures.
The earth will be renewed for the millennial day.

  1. The earth will be transfigured and receive its paradisiacal glory (see D&C 63:20–21; Articles of Faith 1:10; Isaiah 65:17; 2 Peter 3:10–14).
    God knows what we are doing to earth and he will fix it when He comes. You liberals want to put all these restrictions on the United States, while letting China, India and many other countries pollute away. Take away our cars, planes, fossil fuels, etc. and see how quick the United States is ruled by other countries. Common sense people.
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Once again, @jazzrule makes the argument of don't worry about our actions, Allah will take care of it all.
 
JazzMan4Life said:
Once again, @jazzrule makes the argument of don't worry about our actions, Allah will take care of it all.
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Perhaps this is an example of "MyTrutherism", if I can coin the term..... that being the principle that people can believe what they wish, pending Judgment Day or whatever. Most of what we believe is of this sort, at some level of understanding.

The Bible asserts that God gave Man a command to care for the Earth, and keep it. I'd say that justifies using the best knowledge and skills or technology we can for the purpose. It is, however, a "thing" nowadays to be anti-human and to believe we should just let it all go back to "nature". The Bible asserts we should apply our labor to make it productive.
Some today disbelieve in God and assert lesser worth to man, and consider such "work" evil.

I think the right term for the beliefs that run in that direction is "regressive", and the political glad grabbing of facts to promote a fake political "solution" is more the problem than the productive humans. The use of climate change to promote huge political power grabs is actually the least justifiable "solution".

If we have global warming anywhere near the level of concern, the right course of action would be to directly assess impacts and make necessary relocations to preserve human producrtivity….. yah.... nuclear power would be the direct solution to most of that concern..

And speaking as the brother of leading nuclear safety engineer...… we can store the stuff in plastic/glass balls that will last until the next plate tectonic subduction, and store them in pools onsite and use the heat to pre-warm heat exchange unit fluids.

I believe the great green scare is bought and paid for hype serving cartel interests..... running upstart competitors outta the game.... driving us into mega-robber baron politics. Rockefeller name all over it.

The Bible said there would be an "end-time" when there would be a very evil government that would suppress the people while claiming all the power......
 
I don’t think we can conquer China and all of SE Asia in 18 months. That’s likely the only way to curb enough pollution to matter.

*I tried this in Risk and you have to build up a monstrous force in Australia first.
 
DasJazz said:
I don’t think we can conquer China and all of SE Asia in 18 months. That’s likely the only way to curb enough pollution to matter.

*I tried this in Risk and you have to build up a monstrous force in Australia first.
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I will say the amount of plastic waste in China makes the idea of recycling in the USA pointless. They produce so much plastic waste and packaging here in China.

It does make me laugh that the Starbucks here in Beijing don't give you a straw these days. Like, really? You just gave me my coffee in a plastic cup, in a plastic bag. But no straw, lol. Plus literally 24 million people every hour on the hour order a drink here at work that comes in some fancy plastic cup with a huge straw, in 2 plastic bags.
 
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