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Gameface said:
Uhm, those plans. Those were her plans. When she was overlooked to lead the CFPB, even though she is the person who made it happen based on her years of academic work, years of work in the national government, she decided to run for Senate.

Now she's going to be the next President of the U.S..

You're trying to paint her as a phoney and I think that makes you look bad.
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the definition of phoney is endorsing Bernie’s healthcare plan for a year, and then putting out your own plan later that uses the same name as his plan, only you water it down and still allow private insurance companies to profit off of sick people
 
dalamon said:
bernie will, because his candidacy actually inspires people to run. We already have evidence in that, with the AOCs and the Salazars and the Cabals.



This **** truly doesnt matter



well I hope you cheer up cuz when he becomes prez you’re gonna be seein it all the time and it’s gonna be ****ing fire
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Have fun in Canada. The land where you think you know jack **** about the U.S.. but actually just know **** about ****ing Canada.
 
Zombie said:
She's a cosponsor of his M4All bill, if I'm not mistaken. Kind of a weird critique to make that she's "ripping him off" somehow.

I think it's kind of funny to see the far left act like she's Hillary 2.0, while the moderates in the party act like she's no different from Sanders himself.

I'd be perfectly happy with either as the nominee, as their first terms will probably end up pretty much the same. It's not like either one is going to magically have 60 Democrats in the senate after all.

She's made fighting corruption and greed her calling card which is, along with climate change, the most pressing issue in the US currently imo.
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see my post to gameface
 
Gameface said:
Have fun in Canada. The land where you think you know jack **** about the U.S.. but actually just know **** about ****ing Canada.
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Gameface said:
Have fun in Canada. The land where you think you know jack **** about the U.S.. but actually just know **** about ****ing Canada.
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well so far I seem to know more about warren’s healthcare plan than Zombie, and more about her voter demographics than Thriller. I was the first person to post about AOC when she won her primary. I’d wager that I follow left US politics closer than 98% of this board
 
dalamon said:
see my post to gameface
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Sure, I understand that, but you should also be aware that none of the differences in their plans really matter all that much for one simple reason: they don't get to vote on it.

What an eventual M4All plan looks like if instituted depends far more on the makeup of the Senate than the details of the plans put forward during a campaign.

I totally understand from a leftist perspective why she's not adored like Bernie, but in a Bernie-less world she'd be far and away the most left wing candidate we've seen in decades.
 
Being the Administer of the U.S. clearly matters.

We never thought it did until a complete incompetent became President, now we know it does matter.

Meeting with foreign leaders, it matters. I'd prefer they meet with Warren over (arms in the air) Bernie.

I trust Warren's ability to make smart decisions over Bernie's raw idealism. We need the President to be a realist. Bernie is not a realist, he's an idealist. Maybe some people like that. I know Trump supporters liked it when they rejected the rest of the Republican field for a guy that spoke to their heart and soul.
 
dalamon said:
well so far I seem to know more about warren’s healthcare plan than Zombie, and more about her voter demographics than Thriller. I was the first person to post about AOC when she won her primary. I’d wager that I follow left US politics closer than 98% of this board
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Yes, you are certainly tapped into the extreme left of all of North America. My previous post stands.
 
Zombie said:
Sure, I understand that, but you should also be aware that none of the differences in their plans really matter all that much for one simple reason: they don't get to vote on it.

What an eventual M4All plan looks like if instituted depends far more on the makeup of the Senate than the details of the plans put forward during a campaign.

I totally understand from a leftist perspective why she's not adored like Bernie, but in a Bernie-less world she'd be far and away the most left wing candidate we've seen in decades.
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In a Bernie-less world, she wouldn’t be advocating for this healthcare plan. If she supported it regardless of Bernie, she would have endorsed him in 2016 just like Tulsi did.

She’s a thermometer, and reacting to the Overton window shift. Sanders is a thermostat, he’s the one shifting the window. That’s why I support him. He’s changed America permanently
 
Gameface said:
Yes, you are certainly tapped into the extreme left of all of North America. My previous post stands.
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imagine the furoree if bernie cosponsored a Warren plan, stole the name and then watered it down.
 
dalamon said:
imagine the furoree if bernie cosponsored a Warren plan, stole the name and then watered it down.
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I can't. I just can't imagine such a thing. The furoree would just be too furoreeus.
 
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