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Babe's Mentoring Space, Help for The Helpless Liberals in here.

babe said:
We have quite the zoo, really, and I think that's wonderful. It makes for fun times.

But I don't have any social life at all, except for the cows, and JFC. And I have a nice shady in the summer cave, and a nice sunny in the winter cave as well, and here's my shingle:

Advice for those who don't want it, yet pay a hefty price for not listening: Help for the Helpless. Hope for the Hopeless. Faith for the Faithless..... for liberals.

Being a liberal at the anti-climatic end of the progressive age evokes heart-wrenching human consternation. Surely there is a market for comfort for those so conflicted.

This is not in the thread or post headline, but it is indeed a classless cattle call for the obsessive-compulsive trollees, who pile into every stinkin topic like flies into poop:

@Gameface ; @Zombie ; @Thriller

I have to leave others alone because of a few actually sympathetic human characteristics, such as intelligence, charm, and other such things....

I can help you. I feel your pain, I know your sorrow. I, too, once cared to make the world right, to make Science true, to make people good. But I have found the way forward, the way out of all that delusion, and have found a new world, a perfect world that needs nothing but to be left alone. Here is the place to just release all your angst, all your frustration, all your grief. Come to the Cave of What Is, lay your disintegrating fetid ideologies in their proper graves, cry a river of tears, then wipe your eyes and march out resolutely across the beckoning sands into a world that is not warming, to embrace people that are not bad, and study stuff that is not guvmint propaganda laid out by sociopathic "experts".

I will turn it all into sheer childish glee, into primordial fun of one sort or another.



And I'll be here, instead of fouling up your beloved talking point transplant "discussions".
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Amongst family and friends I’m still considered the black sheep conservative. Yet here on Jazzfanz I don’t think there’s a single self-applied conservative I agree with on much of anything. Then there’s the Trump supporters, all of whom read as radically reactionary, rather than calm, considered and conservative. So for this forum, and based on your means of categorization, I may as well be a liberal. Moreover, since I will likely end up supporting Elizabeth Warren for president, it’s a good time for a revaluation of all my political values, probably something I should be doing every now and then anyway, if only to keep my view of the world from becoming too rigid and stale.
 
olden_undercover said:
pre·ten·tious
/prəˈten(t)SHəs/
adjective
adjective: pretentious
  1. attempting to impress by affecting greater importance, talent, culture, etc., than is actually possessed.

...but when your only living, breathing companionship is comprised of Holsteins, you almost can't help it.
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How very cromulent of you, you bourgeois Philistine.
 
Oh, @babe what have you started?

Liberul gubberment minds are aksploding!
 
NPC D4617 said:
Being supportive of our president and not hyperventilating over made up garbage doesnt mean I love him.

If I saw you get into an argument with a mexican over a legitimate issue and you were being called a racist for arguing with the Mexican I would be level headed and support you, and not call you a racist. I would call the people crazy who were hyperventilating and overreacting, and calling you racist. And none of that would mean I love you. It would just mean I am calling it like I see it.

Does that make sense Fish? Is there something I can do to help you see where I am coming from? Should I go slower or explain it a little different?
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Just throwing your system of labeling people based on your perceptions rather than reality right back at you. I'm not surprised you were too dumb to realize it though. Cause you are dumb and all.

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Adam Schiff's sister is married to George Soros' son!.... hellooo! surprise?
Just dropped in to help or take up for our hate Trumpers, liberals, progressives or whatever you chose to call yourselves today. NOT
 
One Brow said:
Two of them aren't even liberal (you listed one anti-Trump conservative-leaning independent, one genuine liberal, and one Republican-hating moderate).
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Lessee..... "Liberal" used to mean people who actually were of a mind to respect others who are different and uphold their basic human rights. I guess a lot of types claim the "liberal" mantle now, if they think it's good PR or is self-descriptive as they understand it, for whatever reason.

Tell you what. I'll ask them to explain why they do or do not want to be called "liberal".

Today the term is used most frequently as a sort of slur that is not yet enrolled on the hate-speech dictionary of lawyers willing to chase people who are hurting from being called such a thing.

Among the unwillingly progressive humans, whose steps forward require some shaming, some prodding, and some extreme "educational regime" that real progressives don't want to call "propaganda", being a "liberal" means, roughly or metaphorically, being "bad", somehow. And I'm pretty sure there is no standard equation for what that "bad" is.

But hey, if anyone feels it necessary to defend themselves as "noble" under the term "liberal", I'm all ears.

But in my usage above, the term is meant for the penitent, for the disillusioned "woke folk" who are wondering if there is not a better way forward.
 
Harambe said:
But he identifies as conservative. So anyone that doesn't wear tinfoil is a liberal.
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A pretty broad general class. So far as I can imagine, the only person who wears "tinfoil" is Madonna. Dunno, there might b e other "stars" who do, but I really don't pay attention.

I know you love over-used slurs, but really. The people who you imagine or characterize as wearing tinfoil are the ones with grease up to their elbows, a car set up on bricks with an engine half-dissembled, a beer in one hand, a cig in the other.... a baseball cap, a T and maybe some Levis.

But I'll take your insight under advisement. I think you mean Gameface. Fair enough. But he's the only conservative I know who'll discuss The Prince a respectable work.
 
olden_undercover said:
pre·ten·tious
/prəˈten(t)SHəs/
adjective
adjective: pretentious
  1. attempting to impress by affecting greater importance, talent, culture, etc., than is actually possessed.

...but when your only living, breathing companionship is comprised of Holsteins, you almost can't help it.
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Grossly inaccurate analysis here.

They are not Holsteins at all. Mostly Angus, a fewCharlais and even less Hereford. Beef.

And in regard to the dictionary, are you defining "liberals"?

I am babe, a no-account philosopher sitting on pile of rocks waiting for the buzzards. I made made peace with the flies and the lizards. But I am not going to stop them from their habits. Life is good..
 
NPC D4617 said:
Nah,

Anyone with Trump derangement syndrome and mindlessly repeats propaganda from leftist media is a liberal.

That would be you Gameface Thrilla and Zombie.

Its so funny how liberals try to deny being liberal. Walk like a duck, quack like a duck, etc.

Im noticing a trend of liberals pretending to be something else.
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Please study my reply to OB.

Words only mean what we want them to mean, and we all want different meanings.
 
NPC D4617 said:
Nah,

Let me help you. There is this place that you have never seen before. Its called rational land. Where people who arent emotional and crazy. You dont have to have TDS or being a Trump Lover. There is a place in between there.
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In the media world, there is no middle ground, and the media folks think they get to define all of us.

TDS, as you term it, is a kind of PtSD that afflicts political idealists whose whole world appears to have blown up somehow.... just because one disrupter sits in the White House for maybe just 4 years, but certainly no more than 8.

As a feeble step forward after the shock, their counselors are suggesting a more positive attitude called "woke".

I am suggesting a better way forward called "nap". One day on the rocks with the buzzards circling and no newspaper, TV, or talking points to republish.
 
Harambe said:
I think @NPC D4617 is your bishop, fish. Preaches to you about a non-existent land neither of you have ever been to, and reminds you that your natural state(read; Natural man) is an enemy to God.
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This comments reveals you to be a post-LDS philosopher, or a student of the post-US revolutionary period of Europe, when royals paid college hacks to invent a godless theorem for the masses.

yah gotta admit, with the French revolution horrors, the nobles were worried what the raging masses might do next. There was a crying need for a managed cultural prophylactic sort of diversion.

That is how the Renaissance became the Progressive Era.
 
NPC D4617 said:
Not his bishop. Im his daddy.

Or at least I identify has his dad, and if I choose to identify as that then it makes it true, and you are a bigot if you disagree.
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I suppose you mean to dishearten your critics..... But you fail to understand them.

Their rules of logic are proprietary. You do not get to use them.
 
babe said:
But hey, if anyone feels it necessary to defend themselves as "noble" under the term "liberal", I'm all ears.
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I'm liberal, and while I have no need to defend myself, I can go over the nobler goals of liberalism, if you like, starting with "people need fair opportunities".
 
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