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The Thriller said:
One thing that I’m getting tired of from both trumpers and tulsiers is this attitude that we “better stop antagonizing Russia.”

Um. Excuse me?

Russia imprisons members of the LGBT community, rigs elections, and kills journalists. They’ve worked to antagonize us throughout the Middle East and europe. They invaded an ally (Ukraine). And attacked us in 2016.

Maybe... just maybe... Russia should stop antagonizing us?

I’m getting tired of people making it sound like Putin is wonderful, Russia is misunderstood, and we’re the ones committing human rights abuses. Russia has been the world’s greatest antagonizer since the close of WWII. And no, it’s not comparable. American capitalism and democracy, while imperfect, isn’t near the scale of Soviet atrocities and now Russian crime. So I don’t want to hear people “both sides” this issue. As and as trump is, he’s a wannabe Putin. He hasn’t achieved Putin status yet
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Yeah let’s put trumpers and tulsiers in the same bag. Let’s get Trump out of office, by any means! -You cry... But hey, not anyone cuts it, let’s make sure it’s someone who maintains the s***ty status quo of keeping that war engine up and running well.

It’s like Ellen Degenerate bragging about getting to hang out with a war criminal (George W Bush) but any time that Tulsi appears on an interview they’re all against her over having met with Assad. It would take a lifetime to unwire that messed up train of thought that you keep regurgitating on a daily basis.
 
Jazzta said:
Yeah let’s put trumpers and tulsiers in the same bag. Let’s get Trump out of office, by any means! -You cry... But hey, not anyone cuts it, let’s make sure it’s someone who maintains the s***ty status quo of keeping that war engine up and running well.

It’s like Ellen Degenerate bragging about getting to hang out with a war criminal (George W Bush) but any time that Tulsi appears on an interview they’re all against her over having met with Assad. It would take a lifetime to unwire that messed up train of thought that you keep regurgitating on a daily basis.
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Trumpers are Tulsiers are definitely in the same bag when denying or diminishing the Russian attack on our democracy in 2016.

No, comparing Ellen and Bush to denying the Russian attack in 2016 isn’t a valid comparison at all
 
Jazzta said:
No, I’m accusing you of supporting a conspiracy theory that only pushes an agenda of perpetual war.
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Lol. It’s only a conspiracy theory to those who want it to be one.

It’s as verifiable as Al-Qaeda attacking America on 9-11-01, Japan attacking Pearl Harbor, and vaccines preventing disease.
 
The Thriller said:
Trumpers are Tulsiers are definitely in the same bag when denying or diminishing the Russian attack on our democracy in 2016.

No, comparing Ellen and Bush to denying the Russian attack in 2016 isn’t a valid comparison at all
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The same kind of attack that Bernie experienced within his own party?
 
Jazzta said:
The same kind of attack that Bernie experienced within his own party?
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Huh? I’m not following

There’s a small contingent on the left and a larger contingent on the right who live denying the Russian attack on our democracy in 2016. They’re both willfully ignorant. That’s the commonality.
 
Those who deny Russian attacks on our democracy are primarily found supporting Tulsi. She is known to be much more supportive of Russia and downplay Russian aggression than most of the other Democratic candidates. She is the most “Russia friendly” of all the Democratic candidates.

While Trump flat out denies it. Which, of course he would because he benefitted from them and (if you had read the Mueller report) you’d know that his campaign had several inappropriate and most likely illegal communications with them.

So why you’re trying to bring up Bush, Ellen, and Bernie Sanders is beyond me. My guess, if I had to guess, is you know you’ve lost this argument and now you’re purposely trying to conflate a bunch of unconnected people in an attempt to obfuscate.
 
The Thriller said:
Those who deny Russian attacks on our democracy are primarily found supporting Tulsi. She is known to be much more supportive of Russia and downplay Russian aggression than most of the other Democratic candidates. She is the most “Russia friendly” of all the Democratic candidates.

While Trump flat out denies it. Which, of course he would because he benefitted from them and (if you had read the Mueller report) you’d know that his campaign had several inappropriate and most likely illegal communications with them.

So why you’re trying to bring up Bush, Ellen, and Bernie Sanders is beyond me. My guess, if I had to guess, is you know you’ve lost this argument and now you’re purposely trying to conflate a bunch of unconnected people in an attempt to obfuscate.
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You’ve all been warned. Tulsi and Putin are out to end democracy in the US and make room for the New Soviet Union that’s going to take over the world. Fear the bear!
 
Jazzta said:
Well your narrative sure matches those of MSNBC hosts. Nothing was ever proven about Russian interference in the 2016 election and it’s just getting old.
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Russia's interference in our elections has been absolutely established as fact.

They are antagonizing us.
 
Jazzta said:
The same kind of attack that Bernie experienced within his own party?
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Bernie is an Independent in Congress, and if he has a party at all, it's the Democratic Socialists. What type of attack did Bernie endure from the Democratic Socialists Party?
 
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