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Harambe said:
It's a great source. So good, it's like I'd seen it before.

Unfortunately, I have seen it before. The sources are credible, but it really isn't illustrating an effective measure of the difference between 1/.1% then and now. Is it? Who had 300M in 1950 compared to now? If there wasn't anyone in the $30M-$300M range in 1950, isn't the sample provided kinda... selective?
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It goes by the top percentage of income earners, not by dollar amount. Additionally, there would be a higher number of households contained in 2010. The top tax rates in 1950 was $200,000 with only about 10,000 families getting there. The measured difference is about 6%, which is a difference, but it is not the ridiculous "We taxed at 90%" talking point.
 
One Brow said:
So, the tax rates were about an additional 7% above the average of the 2000s, and some additional 25% higher than today? This is the evidence that disproves my point?
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You were touting the 90% tax rate as a true thing, when it wasn't that. If you want to make the case that a 7% tax rate increase on the 1% of wage earners will pay for all of the socialism you want, go ahead and knock yourself out, but a straight 90% of all income was never a thing.
 
framer said:
You were touting the 90% tax rate as a true thing, when it wasn't that. If you want to make the case that a 7% tax rate increase on the 1% of wage earners will pay for all of the socialism you want, go ahead and knock yourself out, but a straight 90% of all income was never a thing.
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**** socialism
Let's just make the ultra rich pay more in taxes regardless.

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framer said:
You were touting the 90% tax rate as a true thing, when it wasn't that.
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Check again. What I said was, "The US in the 1950s? Has any country taxed the wealthy more than that? Which countries are the ones that failed by taxing the wealthy?"

So, which countries had had higher effective tax rate (your standard) on the wealthy and failed?

framer said:
If you want to make the case that a 7% tax rate increase on the 1% of wage earners will pay for all of the socialism you want, go ahead and knock yourself out, but a straight 90% of all income was never a thing.
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I think increasing the effective income tax rate on the wealthy by 25% would pay for a lot.
 
Archie Moses said:
I'd be down for this for the dog poop thing alone. So many ****s in Daybreak let their dog **** everywhere and don't bat an eye when it comes to cleaning it up.

Although I'm certainly not a fan of a servailence state, I'm really not that afraid of either. I'm probably naive for feeling this way. I feel people should obey laws and act orderly in public.

After listening to Snowden of Rogan's podcast, I felt it's ****ed up the government, businesses and hackers can see what you do online, listen to you, track you, etc, but as an ordinary folk that's not doing anything worthwhile to follow, I'm not afraid of it. It certainly infringes on our freedom though.
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You had to listen to that hump’s podcast up know that?
 
yamers said:
Havent seen ron in a long tome, bet hes locked up in chinas
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I'm still here! Just moved to a beautiful island called nan'ao. I'm living in a beautiful apartment across the street from the ocean. I work about 8 hours a week and have a lot of fun here. I'm really enjoying how few restrictions there are in my day to day life here. China has many issues but the government is far less controlling of your day to day life here compared to USA. Also I make jokes about China almost every day even on my phone with friends. No one cares.
 
Ron Mexico said:
I'm still here! Just moved to a beautiful island called nan'ao. I'm living in a beautiful apartment across the street from the ocean. I work about 8 hours a week and have a lot of fun here. I'm really enjoying how few restrictions there are in my day to day life here. China has many issues but the government is far less controlling of your day to day life here compared to USA. Also I make jokes about China almost every day even on my phone with friends. No one cares.
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He is clearly writing this from a prison cell. My cousin, who lived in China for 6 years, loved a lot about the country... but the government and personal liberty were not among the things he enjoyed. Another thing that he did not enjoy was the extreme racism.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
He is clearly writing this from a prison cell. My cousin, who lived in China for 6 years, loved a lot about the country... but the government and personal liberty were not among the things he enjoyed. Another thing that he did not enjoy was the extreme racism.
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I have dealt with a little racism here. Mostly when l am with a Chinese women. It's no where near as bad as the USA and other places though.

You're friend probably didn't know how to have fun. Was just worried about the blocked websites. I don't like the government here. But I also don't like the government in the USA either. Both have issues. USA has more liberties on a large scale but China has far far more liberties on the small scale day to day life. Government here doesn't try to control everything you do and make laws for every little thing. For example there are no drinking laws besides 0 tolerance drinking and driving. They let people do that they want. It's a sacrifice a lot of people recognize here and live with.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
Are you familiar with communism?
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I looked up the tax rates of the Soviet Union. For over 46 years, they taxed at a rate of 10%-15%. They raised the tax rates in 1989, when they were on the brink of collapse and trying to be more capitalistic (they collasped in 1991). China didn't bother collecting personal income taxes until the 1980s. So, why do you associate communism with high tax rates?
 
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