Sorry, but those who care about the rule of law, facts, and evidence are on my side of this. Those who constantly lie, obstruct, and prevent people from testifying are on your side.
The official "let's impeach Trump" thread
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Sorry, but those who care about the rule of law, facts, and evidence are on my side of this. Those who constantly lie, obstruct, and prevent people from testifying are on your side.
Speaking of which,
Red
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Biden waited until Trump was on US soil again, before releasing this campaign ad last night. In the world of political leadership, by friends( if we even have any friends by the time Trump is through) and foes alike, Donald Trump is the biggest laughing stock on this planet. One of the things this Never Trumper most regrets, I mean it is one sad state of affairs, is knowing the president is universally regarded as a buffoon by his "peers". Does not exactly do us proud. And all you need to know about Trump can be gleaned by watching one of his rallies to see he has no class, and simply does not care to be informed. We elected a guy who does not care to be informed, briefed, etc. And who runs his office like a mob boss.
Whoever the Democratic candidate eventually is has a wealth of material to draw upon:
Jazzta
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That’s a very radical approach that doesn’t help your cause of bringing people to your side, accusing all those that question this impeachment process as liars and obstructionists. Maybe if you tone it down a little people would take your claims more seriously. All that I see so far is a bunch of one-sided hate.
Red
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Perhaps you missed this tweet @The Thriller posted earlier. Simply put, Congress has the constitutional granted right of oversight over the Executive branch of the federal government. It's part of our federal system of checks and balances. The SCOTUS can rule a Congressional passed law unconstitutional. The President can veto a Congressional passed law. The Congress can override a veto, etc., etc, etc. All these built in checks and balances are designed to prevent power accruing too much in one of the three branches.
In the case of impeachment, a right granted to Congress as part of the oversight "check" granted Congress by our Constitution, the president was not granted the right to say: "I'm so sorry, but Congress does not excercise oversight over me. I am above the law, and Congress cannot impeach me. I have spoken". If he could legally say such a thing, we would lose a president and gain an elective monarchy.
We are not an elective monarchy yet, and some of us believe we should act to prevent such a state of affairs. And, somehow, you chose to describe that as "hate". OK....
Red
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I'm pretty sure politicians of all stripes rely on ad agencies( and we might have a good thread discussing how our election system involves "the selling of a president", since candidates are marketed, just like new cars), and don't actually create the political ads themselves, but whatever....
Fwiw I was taking about Trump and cohort as the liars and obstructionists. Not random people who are questioning the process. Those I just consider blind. I hope you open your eyes soon.
The difference being that Trudeau has stopped wearing blackface, while Trump continued to make statements that devalue women.
https://theweek.com/articles/655770/61-things-donald-trump-said-about-women (just the some of the things after his apology).
On Stormy Daniels
6. "Horseface" [Oct. 16, 2018]
On the #MeToo movement
38. "It is a very scary time for young men in America, where you can be guilty of something you may not be guilty of. … Women are doing great."
On French first lady Brigitte Macron
18. "You know, you're in such good shape. Beautiful." [July 13, 2017]
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/16/us/politics/trump-women-insults.html
After Jessica Leeds said in 2016 that Mr. Trump groped her on an airplane in the 1980s, he said “believe me, she would not be my first choice.” Of Natasha Stoynoff, a former People magazine writer who said Mr. Trump accosted her during an interview, Mr. Trump denied it and said, “Check out her Facebook page, you’ll understand.”
Except, by his behavior since, those words exactly reflected who he is, he has not been a better man, and he has let us down. I'm sure you will continue to hold this against Trump. Thank you for staying consistent in your morals and standards.
Please define the form such evidence would take, for you.
Your definition means that being anti-Trump is not being partisan, because to be partisan, you have to support someone/thing specifically.