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The official "let's impeach Trump" thread

Looks like The Thriller had something to add. Too bad I have him on ignore because I give his nonsensical mainstream led opinions less consideration than I would give to a turd laid in the middle of the the salt flats.
 
colton said:
Multiple credible legal analysts have stated this. I'm willing to look it up if you're willing to say that it will change your mind. So, how about it? If merely asking a foreign government to interfere in an election is a crime, will it change your mind about whether Trump should be impeached? If not I won't waste my time.
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We've been through 52 USC Subpart III already, I I gave Mueller's interpretation of it and Weintrab's dealings trying to get that law language changed over to your stance. And I'm not the one here unwilling to change my mind. You've been pounding the drum and spamming anti-Trump stuff since before the transcript even came out. Are you willing to change your mind or is everything going to continue to be viewed through impeach Trump lenses? Have you once given consideration to the possibility of innocence?
 
idestroyedthetoilet said:
We've been through 52 USC Subpart III already, I I gave Mueller's interpretation of it and Weintrab's dealings trying to get that law language changed over to your stance. And I'm not the one here unwilling to change my mind. You've been pounding the drum and spamming anti-Trump stuff since before the transcript even came out. Are you willing to change your mind or is everything going to continue to be viewed through impeach Trump lenses? Have you once given consideration to the possibility of innocence?
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Absolutely. I actually started out hoping he would be a good president even though I didn't vote for him. I even applauded his choice of Gorsuch for the Supreme Court. I didn't start this thread on day one of his presidency. So with each charge against him I've considered that possibility. But the evidence against him on multiple matters is now so overwhelming I frankly don't even respect the opinions of people like yourself anymore. There's simply no debate to be had.

P.S. And yes, I was calling for his impeachment long before the Ukraine call transcript came out. That is because he had already committed multiple impeachable offenses by then, at least imo. Such as, for example, obstruction of justice with regards to Mueller's investigation. And other things such as are in post 2 of this thread. But it hasn't been until the Ukraine thing that I've taken the stance that I now have, which I expressed above, namely that there is now no possible way of defending Trump's behavior and I have no respect for those who try.
 
colton said:
Absolutely. I actually started out hoping he would be a good president even though I didn't vote for him. I even applauded his choice of Gorsuch for the Supreme Court. I didn't start this thread on day one of his presidency. So with each charge against him I've considered that possibility. But the evidence against him on multiple matters is now so overwhelming I frankly don't even respect the opinions of people like yourself anymore. There's simply no debate to be had.

P.S. And yes, I was calling for his impeachment long before the Ukraine call transcript came out. That is because he had already committed multiple impeachable offenses by then, at least imo. Such as, for example, obstruction of justice with regards to Mueller's investigation. And other things such as are in post 2 of this thread. But it hasn't been until the Ukraine thing that I've taken the stance that I now have, which I expressed above, namely that there is now no possible way of defending Trump's behavior and I have no respect for those who try.
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Likewise. I've stayed out of this thread for the most part (maybe a couple dozen posts scattered over 300 pages?) because y'all are unhinged and get ruffled too easy when someone doesn't see the light of day that your god complex is shining so brightly upon us, and I prefer to think better of you.

I'll duck back out since caring about the rule of law, facts, and evidence is not respectable, as opposed to thriving on conjecture, hearsay, sensational journalism, witch hunting, and re-interpreting laws to fit an agenda.

colton said:
Wow, you are so far into an alternate reality that I fear there is no hope for you.
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@Catchall where can I pitch my tent?
 
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The real problem why the right and left are so far apart is because of how over the top the left is going about this. If they took a more measured and calm approach to their concerns then maybe they could be taken more serious.
 
idestroyedthetoilet said:
I'll duck back out since caring about the rule of law, facts, and evidence is not respectable, as opposed to thriving on conjecture, hearsay, sensational journalism, witch hunting, and re-interpreting laws to fit an agenda
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Oh get off your high horse for christs sake. If you want to pretend Trump hasn't abused the power of the presidency that's one thing, don't give us this ******** about not caring about the rule of law.
 
Jazzta said:
Looks like The Thriller had something to add. Too bad I have him on ignore because I give his nonsensical mainstream led opinions less consideration than I would give to a turd laid in the middle of the the salt flats.
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ouch! That’s harsh. A bit too extreme, don’t you think?

also, how would a turd end up in the salt flats?
 
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Zombie said:
Oh get off your high horse for christs sake. If you want to pretend Trump hasn't abused the power of the presidency that's one thing, don't give us this ******** about not caring about the rule of law.
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Don’t you find it interesting that for every major controversy of his presidency, Donald has claimed his innocence while acting 100 percent guilty? I mean, if there really wasn’t anything to Russia, why would you fire the FBI Director and spend years stonewalling the special prosecutor’s investigation? Why wouldn’t you immediately testify to clear up the whole misunderstanding? Why would you lie in written answers to the special prosecutor? Why would you dangle pardons to sentenced criminals?

Likewise, with the Ukrainian deal, why wouldn’t you compel your key cabinet members to testify and clear this entire thing up? Why would you stonewall the House? Why would you permit your “personal attorney” to be in Ukraine AS WE SPEAK?

But you know, Republicans care about rule of law and stuff...
 
NPC D4617 said:
The real problem why the right and left are so far apart is because of how over the top the left is going about this. If they took a more measured and calm approach to their concerns then maybe they could be taken more serious.
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You're being far too kind. Over the top is as mild as you could phrase it. I think the guy is scum, even told my kid when he asked that I lamented his election because I think we should respect the office regardless of who wins but didn't want him to respect it with Trump, think they should impeach him for illegally paying off hookers with campaign money, think he deserves to be impeached for his racist go back to where they came from remark about some congresswomen, and even believe he is most likely guilty of trying to bribe Ukraine even if it cannot be proven. But all of that is not enough if I'm not all in with both feet with every little fanatical accusation thrown out in this constant barrage.
 
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