2020 NBA trade deadline discussion

[Handlogten's Heros]

It’s amazing that someone can take that strategy rather than going out and finding what you want. It’s literally the KOC approach. It’s how he approached restricted free agency. It’s how he approached the DWill trade where he only talked to one team and valued “no leaks” over getting better talent.

People complicate the hell out of things. Or at least try to simplify it to a ridiculously stupid level. There was an old episode of King of the Hill where, if I recall, they thought Bobby was gay (or maybe I’m conflating this premise with the Simpsons episode) so they thought because Boomhauer always is able to have success with women, they send him with him to learn his tricks. But this ends up like watching the chef in the kitchen, or learning how a magic trick is done, and it ends up not nearly as spectacular as you envisioned.



If you want something, you’ve gotta go out and try to get it. Now, I know DL occasionally does this because he gets tunnel vision, but the goal should be “improve the team” and not just “I’ve got a hard on for player x.” It’s going to take a lot of rejection. Jack Nicholson’s character on the bucket list had “kiss the most beautiful girl in the world” on his list and, when asked how he would do that, responded with, “by volume!”

tl;dr pick up the damn phone.

The narrative coming from Tony of "this is the team... there is nothing they can do" is pretty weak... every year minimum guys shift around or are traded for seconds etc. I'm not saying trade Conley, I'm not saying get Sabonis or Aaron Gordon, I'm saying we can improve the bench with an addition or two in our price range. The bench is the biggest thing holding us back from winning more. There is no move that makes us a contender but improving our record so we don't face the LA teams or Houston in the first round is possible. If we can win a championship I'd at least like to get to the second round.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Wondering how Bojan would do in tje second unit. Conley, Mitchell and rudy demand touches as starters.

Bojan is good at finding a shot and not so motivated to find a pass. Would he like to be the featured player in the second unit? Then trade for/sign/ or start using Brantley or Howard as your starting pf.

I feel like they kinda tried that and it didn't work. Bojan seems to be amazing when he is in kill mode looking for his shot. When he passes or tries to straddle both lines as a creator it has lead to indecision and turnovers. I think Conley in the second unit might work better, but I think they tried that early.

I think they need to mix some grinder, hustle types in the second unit and if Mudiay or Green have a good game then the bench units will stay afloat. We don't need them to be positive... just don't be a massive negative.

 

[SCS]

Tony Jones is adamant that this is the team, and he won't hear anything else.

Hmm.

He's also adamant that the current bench unit just needs chemistry. He's pushing the company line hard and it's annoying. Fans aren't stupid. We can see the bench sucks. If the team truly believes this bench just needs chemistry we are in deep f****** trouble. No amount of chemistry is saving this group.

 

[campaignist]

The only acquisition that should matter is a PF that can rebound, defend, and run a pick and roll. Anything else is a bonus.

I doubt the assets are available to pull it off but we will see.

 

[Deleted member 5000]

It'd look stupid for us, but I want Crowder back and would certainly move Exum to do it.

 

[infection]

I do have a question for @Handlogten's Heros:

We always hear the DL is "being aggressive." If you don't make phone calls, what exactly is 'aggressive'? Aggressively answering phone calls? Waiting for inevitable TJ report around the deadline that we're "being aggressive," but at the same time also getting messages that making phone calls and, well, doing anything really, isn't our MO.

 

[infection]

I do have a question for @Handlogten's Heros:

We always hear the DL is "being aggressive." If you don't make phone calls, what exactly is 'aggressive'? Aggressively answering phone calls? Waiting for inevitable TJ report around the deadline that we're "being aggressive," but at the same time also getting messages that making phone calls and, well, doing anything really, isn't our MO.

I suppose what we'll get is, in some other fancy words, some surrogates saying that "well they didn't really have any assets anyway so it's silly to try" or "with no real trade out there, they didn't want to risk throwing guys under the bus with their name being out there like Ricky, so they took the prudent move of doing nothing."

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I do have a question for @Handlogten's Heros:

We always hear the DL is "being aggressive." If you don't make phone calls, what exactly is 'aggressive'? Aggressively answering phone calls? Waiting for inevitable TJ report around the deadline that we're "being aggressive," but at the same time also getting messages that making phone calls and, well, doing anything really, isn't our MO.

Being aggressive... for us... so normally we make 0 calls... only receive calls. Around the deadline we get aggressive and make some calls. Aggressive is relative.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I just scanned what I think the trade market could be for point guards... get used to Mudiay, Exum, and maybe NWG... cuz there is nothing out there for us.

Are you ready for this? It worked for Portland.... we sign Jamal Crawford... (ducks and leaves the forum for the day)

 

[infection]

I just scanned what I think the trade market could be for point guards... get used to Mudiay, Exum, and maybe NWG... cuz there is nothing out there for us.

Are you ready for this? It worked for Portland.... we sign Jamal Crawford... (ducks and leaves the forum for the day)

I think the only people you have to duck and leave from are the twitter talking heads. Us stupid folk who do nothing besides supply the capital to make this entire enterprise run don't know **** and just need to STFU.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Now that we down to 5 good players... just go full hockey subs and pray the bad 12 minutes a night don't screw us.

 

[infection]

Now that we down to 5 good players... just go full hockey subs and pray the bad 12 minutes a night don't screw us.

Or, you know, we could go grab a guy from off the couch like Faried who put up 13/8 last year. But no, it’s gotta be the FO’s idea and it’s gotta be original. That was Morey’s idea last year. Surely can’t copy that. Go find something original, like Niang.