She didn't gain anything by listing Native American on her paperwork AFTER she was hired.
2020 Presidential election
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JazzyFresh
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Lol, I though I was ignored.
Let's also not forget those who just quit her campaign due to racism. But... Nobody seems cares about racism unless they can use the subject for political gain. I mean if I were to claim I was black to get a heads up in school id consider myself racist. Funny thing is, people here say it hurts noone yet even she recognizes what she did was flat out wrong.
"Like anyone who's been honest with themselves, I know that I have made mistakes. I am sorry for harm I have caused."
Let's also not forget those who just quit her campaign due to racism. But... Nobody seems cares about racism unless they can use the subject for political gain. I mean if I were to claim I was black to get a heads up in school id consider myself racist. Funny thing is, people here say it hurts noone yet even she recognizes what she did was flat out wrong.
"Like anyone who's been honest with themselves, I know that I have made mistakes. I am sorry for harm I have caused."
What was the personal gain?
See, once in a while you can come up with a genuine concern. I'm hoping it's more than a blind squirrel finding a nut.
1) It was wrong for Warren to claim to be native American.
2) It was not for personal gain, as you claimed.
3) It did hurt actual tribal members by trivializing them.
Is that clear enough?
JazzyFresh
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Disagree. I think her ego was the personal gain. She lied about being a Native for attention and to feed her starved ego. Why else would she do it for 20 years then even get a DNA test that says she wasn't yet bragged about it? She just wanted to be victim. She wanted to use race to up her standing within minority communities. Using race as a political stunt is a go-to move to a certain demographic of the far left.
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You forgot to add that Trump has done way worse things than Warren did many many times.
Laughable to say that Warren claiming to be native American is worse than ANYTHING trump has EVER done.
Maybe it's worse than anything trump ever did on one specific day though I guess.
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JazzyFresh
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Being a racist is one of the worst things you can be and I think lying about your heritage for whatever reason is racist. Sure adultery is terrible but no where near using race as a means to make yourself look good. Crazy thing is people call Trump a racist for calling MS13 animals or calling a country that is a **** hole a **** hole but look right past someone who actually USED race and LIED about their race/heritag.
JazzyFresh
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I actually liked Bill as a president and he got his dick sucked in the oval office. He's my 2nd favorite president since I've been keen on politics. I don't hold it against him. Maybe I should but I don't.
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This speaks volumes
JazzyFresh
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Yet everyone and their grandmother are honering and are at a loss for Kobe.
Or do you think Bill was a terrible president? I'm not sure what you mean
AverageJoe
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It`s a false equivalent. I disagree with you that very many people are giving her a pass. The sheer volume of BS to scrape off the wall means that Trump gets away with everything. Yes people talk about it, but that doesn't seem to matter. It becomes white noise. Lets be real. Warren had a major indiscretion, and is rightly being criticized as inauthentic (no doubt its hurting her in her bid for the nomination) but her sociopath factor is dwarfed by Trump`s level of pathological lying and immoral actions.
JazzyFresh
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True or false
Trump is the first and only president to lie and be immoral?
My answer is, he no different than the rest. Weapons of mass destruction, if you like your plan, I didn't have relations. It's pretty bad when politifact, a left leaning media, calls you the "Liar of the Year".
AverageJoe
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Well, false obviously, but what is unprecedented is that the Donald is the first POTUS to not even pretend to care about the American public. That's whats so outrageous and vile.
Bush, for example, to his credit I think always believed what he was doing was moral, but unfortunately he was grossly incompetent and misled. Trump is next level gross.
Edit: I'll add Clinton as a case study. He received a ******** or two while he was President and was forced to leave office but ran a prosperous and popular regime. Would you say he's just as bad as trump who was just acquitted on a Nixonesque "its not illegal if the president does it" defense. Are they the same? Rhetorical. No they are not.
Bush, for example, to his credit I think always believed what he was doing was moral, but unfortunately he was grossly incompetent and misled. Trump is next level gross.
Edit: I'll add Clinton as a case study. He received a ******** or two while he was President and was forced to leave office but ran a prosperous and popular regime. Would you say he's just as bad as trump who was just acquitted on a Nixonesque "its not illegal if the president does it" defense. Are they the same? Rhetorical. No they are not.
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There are degrees and amounts of lying and immoral acts to be weighed though. Trump is the superheavyweight champ in that regard.
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JazzyFresh
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I disagree. I think Trump cares far more for the American public than a president who sat on his *** while an embassy was under attack than lied to you and me about it being caused by a video tape. Or you know, people like me who worked in natural resources who he didn't give a single **** about. Or those of us who were laid off due to his EPA regulations, thrown on the streets, then forced to buy an insurance plan or get fined. He certainly cared when he targeted conservative groups through the IRS. Spied on an elected officials campaign. Lying to us that we can keep our insurance plans. You know lying about something as important as our health shows he cares. Yeah, he sure did a lot for people like me...
But you know. Prison reform for minorities is vile according to you guys. Signing a bill that allocates money to failing black only colleges is vile according to you guys. Wanting to protect Americans first before illegal immigrants is vile. A booming economy that benefits every single American is vile. Low unemployment rates for minorities and women is just disgusting to you guys. We know how much you all must love human trafficking because you call his combating it vile. Strong military and giving funds to the VA is just terrible. Letting people like me off of Obamacare and actually allowing me to choose my doctor is just so evil. Getting things like the USMCA done, sheer hate. 6 in 10 Americans(usatoday) saying they are better off right now pisses you off even though it's one of the highest in recent memory. Standing behind Iranians while they protest. Standing behind Hong Kong as they protest.
But yeah Obama cares. He did so much for the black community. He didn't **** all over republicans every second he could. It was great and awesome when cities burned under his watch, all while he supported a group that chanted how much they wanted to kill police.
With all due respect spare me.
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My wife has a similar family story. She was told, and believes, that she is part Native American. She personally identifies as a part of the tribe of her ancestor, but I guarantee you they won't recognize her.
It's kind of sad that you think people need a nefarious motive for this stuff.
JazzyFresh
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There's no reason to think Warren lied.
I call him a racist because he was fined for discriminating against black people, and called for innocent black people to be executed.
You were laid off because other sources of energy were, and still are, becoming cheaper every year. Also, if you were on the streets, you got Medicaid.
So many lies and mischaracterizations in that post, so little time.
You don't spare us.
You're right. She's practically ivory.