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2020 Presidential election

1) I complained about Obama's deportations at the time. You didn't notice, probably because you don't care.
2) There's a huge difference in how Obama and Trump treat children. I understand that you don't care how these kids are treated, but some of us do.
Some of us do!
 
Well, the issue is that if the electoral college system is abolished, then states don't mean anything and political power is nationalized.
 
I'll take Jefferson and Madison over you any day...
Jefferson and Madison would NEVER take you.

Read their writings. I have some books I could lend you if you really wanted to do that.

You have nothing in common with them.
 
Well, the issue is that if the electoral college system is abolished, then states don't mean anything and political power is nationalized.

Senators are still elected by state. Representatives are still restricted to a single state.

Could you explain what you mean by "nationalized" here? How is popular vote more "nationalized" with a popular vote, and why is this an issue?
 
Senators are still elected by state. Representatives are still restricted to a single state.

Could you explain what you mean by "nationalized" here? How is popular vote more "nationalized" with a popular vote, and why is this an issue?

The electoral college system ensures that individual states, including smaller states, have an impact on the election of the President and are not just overridden by large states. The creation of states' rights and the decentralization of power among those states is part and parcel to the electoral process that the founders envisioned.
 
Yeah I was reaching a bit there(being facetious) except I do feel her claiming to be a Native for personal gain is absolutely terrible. People bag on Trump but I think that's worse than anything he's ever done.
Worse than rape?

Your morals are seriously messed up.
 
Edit: I'll add Clinton as a case study. He received a ******** or two while he was President and was forced to leave office but ran a prosperous and popular regime. Would you say he's just as bad as trump who was just acquitted on a Nixonesque "its not illegal if the president does it" defense. Are they the same? Rhetorical. No they are not.
I believe it was 10 blowjobs, but he only orgasmed once. Make of that what you will.

He was impeached, but not removed from office. Same as Trump.
 
Did the Obama administration blame a video tape on Benghazi

Yes or no

No.
Did Obama's IRS target conservative groups?

Yes or no

No
Did Obama lie about being able to keep healthcare plans?

Yes or no

No
Did Obamas FBI illegally spy on Trump advisors?

Yes or no

No
Just yes or no please.
I would have more to say on these to clarify, but...
 
It's really not surprising though. When the FBI openly admits it illegally spied on Trump advisors that you all would all say otherwise.
 
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I would have more to say on these to clarify, but...
Two of 4 warrants letting FBI spy on ex-Trump aide Carter Page were not valid, says DOJ

In December, a scathing report by the Justice Department's inspector general found that the FBI's applications to spy on Page were rife with "factual misstatements and omissions," and in the weeks since, the FISA court has demanded an accounting from the Justice Department on how that happened and what is being done about it
 
I believe it was 10 blowjobs, but he only orgasmed once. Make of that what you will.
He was impeached, but not removed from office. Same as Trump.

Thanks for correcting me. I'm not a presidential historian. For some reason I thought he may have resigned but I must have been thinking of nixon. The end of his term was impaired though after that was it not? I think of his tenure being boom times on most fronts but maybe you can enlighten me on the finer points.
 
The inspector general, Michael Horowitz, found no evidence that political bias played a role in the opening of the Russia probe, which failed to establish that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia. But he also said he found no satisfactory alternative explanation when it came to the lies and omissions that led a court to wrongly authorize spying on Page, who was not charged with a crime.
 
In an email to her daughter shortly after the attack, Hillary Clinton blamed it on terrorism. But when I saw

Hillary Clinton at Sean’s coffin ceremony two days later, she looked me squarely in the eye and told me a video was responsible.
 
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