"But... but... he's supposed to be our budget-friendly Deron Williams in the coming years. All it's going to take is patience and development, right?" -Jazz Front Office
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"But... but... he's supposed to be our budget-friendly Deron Williams in the coming years. All it's going to take is patience and development, right?" -Jazz Front Office
He may come through solid in 10-12 minutes over a 5 game stretch in a couple years when we're depleted by injury. Stupid to be so short-sighted to hamstring us in the future just for one playoff run.
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There are really only 3 candidates I can see getting bought out that aren't terrible:
- Harkless… would be great... he would have options... still not sure they do it unless he pushes for it.
- Tristan Thompson - Think it has like a 25% chance of happening in part because of his representation and the fact that he may get more next year through sign and trade.
- Demarre Carroll - There was the tweet that said he didn't want to waste away on the bench, but he has a multi year deal, so how much is he willing to give up? I'm not sure he's good, but I'd take a look if I was DL.
I think outside of a guy currently out of the league signing (udoh, Booker, Bogut) I think we are rolling with this roster... buzzer kinda sounded for us at the trade deadline.
- Harkless… would be great... he would have options... still not sure they do it unless he pushes for it.
- Tristan Thompson - Think it has like a 25% chance of happening in part because of his representation and the fact that he may get more next year through sign and trade.
- Demarre Carroll - There was the tweet that said he didn't want to waste away on the bench, but he has a multi year deal, so how much is he willing to give up? I'm not sure he's good, but I'd take a look if I was DL.
I think outside of a guy currently out of the league signing (udoh, Booker, Bogut) I think we are rolling with this roster... buzzer kinda sounded for us at the trade deadline.
If that last sentence is true, then this is like when the kid asks his dad if he can buy a drink at the stadium and dad says "nah, let's get a drink on the way home from the gas station!" Then dad passes the gas station. "Ah, ****, you know what... I don't think we can go tonight."
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It's like that except the dad said that while knowing there is only one gas station in town and they are likely closed on the way home.
I think relying on the buyout market is way more dicey than trying to get a trade done.
But, I mean, there's still guys out there... Bogut, Noah, Ekpe. Really no reason we should be rolling with the same roster come March 1, yet we likely will be. We will be active in that market, though.
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Pick up Bogut he still has game. If Gobert is hurt for any period Bradley isn’t goin to fill in like a good vet would Bradley will foiul out so we need some insurance Bogut has ties here and sees we have a great team
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I think right now the only guy that is truly available is Noah... Not sure what the contract status of the CBA buys is... not sure when the Australian league ends.
It isn't the right move, but I do think we go into the postseason with this roster. Some of us know how that will play out, but it will be confirmed in the playoffs to the front office. Then they will hopefully address the issues in the offseason. Problem is when you are 6-12 months behind on changes that should be made then new ones will pop up and things will change... like the cartoon with the finger plugging up the holes in the damn.
I love this team... haven't given up on them, but I don't see them as a contender... the holes we have on our roster are fine if you aren't trying to contend. Like go ahead and develop TB and Niang if you aren't trying to reach the highest levels of NBA performance.
The front office doesn't have the sense of urgency that I'd expect from a team that thinks they can win now. Half our bench is G League guys for hells sake. That's fine... if you are trying to be a good playoff team... if you are trying to contend you need more depth and diverse pieces to help you play to certain matchups.
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Like if I was a stockholder or on the board of this team... I'd be super happy... Keep going guys... we ain't Apple or Amazon but that's okay.
As a fan I'm like... push all in and try to beat Apple's ***...
Based on our actions we aren't behaving like a team (from a front office perspective) that believes it is or could be a contender this year. 4 roster spots are G league rookie guys, 1 to Tony who has never been a regular rotation player and let's be honest... they weren't planning on him being a rotation player this year and 1 spot to Niang who is a borderline rotation player... contenders don't construct their roster that way.
As a fan I'm like... push all in and try to beat Apple's ***...
Based on our actions we aren't behaving like a team (from a front office perspective) that believes it is or could be a contender this year. 4 roster spots are G league rookie guys, 1 to Tony who has never been a regular rotation player and let's be honest... they weren't planning on him being a rotation player this year and 1 spot to Niang who is a borderline rotation player... contenders don't construct their roster that way.
WTF is Roy Hibbert up to?
I think you just don't believe in the vision of a guy who got us Rudy and Donovan.
But really. There's kind of this bell curve distribution of probability, and our the median and mean is not really what anyone has in mind, it's not the answer everyone is tuning in for. But every once in a while, we catch some glimpses of the right side outliers and we think that just because our distribution of probability includes the right side of the graph within its range, that that's just as good as having the mean closer to it. So we run on this idea of "if the stars align this is going to look really good." Or, in other terms... it's like saying "if Donovan scores 40, we win. Donovan can score 40. So that's our plan." We shouldn't have to rely on ungodly performances to win. Yes, it's in our range of possibility of going far if everyone plays ungodly... but is that the same thing as being that good? Why is it somehow offensive to suggest we move our talents and abilities a little farther to the right so we can rely on some average outputs to make us the contender rather than being content being a contender under a very select set of circumstances?
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Didn't expect to see that name...
My take is the front office is fine with TB and Ed is the "if Tony sucks and can't figure it out in the playoffs" option. Even if a good buyout option emerged I think they'd go elsewhere... Harkless would like go to Houston or the Lakers, Thompson the same (I think unless he is willing to sign with the Lakers he won't get bought out... Rich Paul won't allow him to compete against Bron).
The front office likely views any of these names we throw out as lateral moves. I'd be surprised if we do anything... not shocked, but surprised.