2020 Presidential election

[Deleted member 365]

One of the biggest economic inequality issues is housing. People's wages have gone up, but relatively little. Whereas, housing prices in most major metros have gone up quite dramatically, by 2x or 3x. So the people who owned the real estate generated wealth, while the people who don't own real estate did not. Now a significant percentage of Millenials and Gen Z may never be able to own a home. These people are pissed off, but it's a difficult issue to solve. Giving these people big loans that they may never pay off in order to buy a home, or providing more cost-controlled rentals that they'll never own, won't make them happy.

I don’t disagree with this. However, I think there’s a view that housing prices have skyrocketed in only metro areas. Which isn’t true. They’ve skyrocketed everywhere with the exception of dying small towns. Just look at Utah. You don’t have to live in salt lake to be priced out of a home. Lehi is one hour south and hardly considered metropolitan and yet single family homes of any quality start at $400,000. Even “affordable” housing in Tooele starts at $350,000. If you want a home with any land you’re looking at $400,000 Eagle Mountain where you’re 30 mins from a grocery store and 1.5 hrs from downtown Salt Lake City. Look at housing prices in Kanab, Morgan, Brigham City, and Nephi. You’re still looking at $300,000+. Unless you’re paying cash for those homes, you’re going to have to work. The Jobs that enable you to afford that type of home are 1+ hrs away.

That’s why everywhere you go you’re seeing overpriced crappy high density housing and why the homeless shelters are overflowing.

I once knew someone who bought their home in Sandy in 1986 for about $87,000. They sold it in one day in 2017 for 600,000. And we wonder why people can’t afford homes anymore?

 

[fishonjazz]

I don’t disagree with this. However, I think there’s a view that housing prices have skyrocketed in only metro areas. Which isn’t true. They’ve skyrocketed everywhere with the exception of dying small towns. Just look at Utah. You don’t have to live in salt lake to be priced out of a home. Lehi is one hour south and hardly considered metropolitan and yet single family homes of any quality start at $400,000. Even “affordable” housing in Tooele starts at $350,000. If you want a home with any land you’re looking at $400,000 Eagle Mountain where you’re 30 mins from a grocery store and 1.5 hrs from downtown Salt Lake City. Look at housing prices in Kanab, Morgan, Brigham City, and Nephi. You’re still looking at $300,000+. Unless you’re paying cash for those homes, you’re going to have to work. The Jobs that enable you to afford that type of home are 1+ hrs away.

That’s why everywhere you go you’re seeing overpriced crappy high density housing and why the homeless shelters are overflowing.

I once knew someone who bought their home in Sandy in 1986 for about $87,000. They sold it in one day in 2017 for 600,000. And we wonder why people can’t afford homes anymore?

Luckily I bought my first (and only) home during the last recession. I have a ton of equity in my home but there is no way I would sell my house to get that equity cause I don't want to shop for a home in this market.

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[Deleted member 848]

No doubt. Since imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, you must really be buttering up Americans.

remember when I called you out for having a grade 1 level understanding of history involving Latin America & you responded by insults instead of a proper retort? **** was pretty funny.

 

[Deleted member 848]

Hurling nukes from Canada..

Haha.. but still love dala.

Give my lil niece a warm hug for me <3 hope all is well

 

[Deleted member 848]

I’m sorry, did I ever stand up high and tout America?

nah but you’re smearing Cuba’s accomplishments as being propoganda. Just give “Cuban Medical Internationalism” a google— across the medical world, their accomplishments are met with respect.

obviously every regime with no democracy needs to be condemned— but sometimes we need to get to complicated truths instead of trumpeting pro-america views that our continent is indoctrinated with. One example being Cuba helping end apartheid while Reagan tried to keep it going

 

[lauriandres]

I don’t disagree with this. However, I think there’s a view that housing prices have skyrocketed in only metro areas. Which isn’t true. They’ve skyrocketed everywhere with the exception of dying small towns. Just look at Utah. You don’t have to live in salt lake to be priced out of a home. Lehi is one hour south and hardly considered metropolitan and yet single family homes of any quality start at $400,000. Even “affordable” housing in Tooele starts at $350,000. If you want a home with any land you’re looking at $400,000 Eagle Mountain where you’re 30 mins from a grocery store and 1.5 hrs from downtown Salt Lake City. Look at housing prices in Kanab, Morgan, Brigham City, and Nephi. You’re still looking at $300,000+. Unless you’re paying cash for those homes, you’re going to have to work. The Jobs that enable you to afford that type of home are 1+ hrs away.

That’s why everywhere you go you’re seeing overpriced crappy high density housing and why the homeless shelters are overflowing.

I once knew someone who bought their home in Sandy in 1986 for about $87,000. They sold it in one day in 2017 for 600,000. And we wonder why people can’t afford homes anymore?

So, who are then those who buy house at that price? Because otherwise the price on the price tag would be lower?
How much does a piece of land (lets say 1000 m2) cost in the same area, where house with land is 400 000 USD?

 

[Gameface]

So, who are then those who buy house at that price? Because otherwise the price on the price tag would be lower?
How much does a piece of land (lets say 1000 m2) cost in the same area, where house with land is 400 000 USD?

I'm no kind of expert, but the land is the expensive part as far as I understand.

And the thing about the price of homes, the bank will give you the 30 or even 45 year loan to buy it. I think they got a little tight with their standards but have started loosening back up. I'd be willing to be MANY people are spending about half their income on their house payment.

 

[One Brow]

remember when I called you out for having a grade 1 level understanding of history involving Latin America & you responded by insults instead of a proper retort? **** was pretty funny.

No, I don't remember that at all. Could you refresh me on that?

BTW, aren't you a little young to be relishing past victories? Has you peaked already? No wonder you want to imitate Americans.

 

[One Brow]

If he’s elected and let’s say minimum wage goes to $15 or thereabouts nationally, the only way I see it playing out is massive layoffs.

Some locations already have a $15 minimum wage. They did not have massive layoffs.

 

[Miggs]

nah but you’re smearing Cuba’s accomplishments as being propoganda. Just give “Cuban Medical Internationalism” a google— across the medical world, their accomplishments are met with respect.

obviously every regime with no democracy needs to be condemned— but sometimes we need to get to complicated truths instead of trumpeting pro-america views that our continent is indoctrinated with. One example being Cuba helping end apartheid while Reagan tried to keep it going

It is propaganda. I’m sure there are doctors there who are the best of the best and have achieved greatness. I don’t believe the majority of their citizens, however, have access to such care. There are literally hundreds, if not thousands, of articles out there about this.

Here’s one.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/fee.or...improve-health-care-or-education-in-cuba//amp

Honestly, there’s no sense in replying because I won’t. You have your mind made up and I have mine. I think you’re gravely underestimating how liberal I am in my thinking and forget that I’m a D/I. I’ve just read or seen way too many articles on this. By “liberal” outlets.

 

[Miggs]

Some locations already have a $15 minimum wage. They did not have massive layoffs.

Way to stop my sentence short. Many have cut hours. And give it time. More will, or will lay people off. Or raise prices which I failed to mention before. You live in fantasy land if you think a CEO and BoD is gonna stand lower profits. Won’t happen. I’m not saying it’s right. It just won’t happen.

 

[JazzyFresh]

I see the DNC is rigging the election for Biden again. Time for a Russia or Corona hoax so that some of you won't even acknowledge it's been the left rigging elections this entire time.

Your party has no backbone. A good chunk of you are The Rat Bernie Bros and are openly complacent about them stealing this election from you. Just imagine... If you spent 1/100,000,000,000th of the time you spend obsessing over your higher power Trump and spent that energy on your own crooked party just maybe The Rat could win.

You won't though and the DNC knows this. You're to easy to be distracted with things like a virus thats less deadly than the common flu. Congrats on your candidate Biden openly lying and politicizing that btw... What a bunch of great humans. Using a deadly virus as a political tool.