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This is what republicans are holding up the aid for? To enrich trump and his cronies?



sad. What about the American people? @Heathme
 
One Brow said:
You mean, as opposed to the Republicans that also won't give on the wind/solar credits and are willing to tank an economy to avoid them?
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The deal was already negotiated and agreed upon. Democrats are now adding in all the garbage, screwing the American people.
 
Political Jazz Fan said:
The deal was already negotiated and agreed upon. Democrats are now adding in all the garbage, screwing the American people.
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why are you so insistent on taking my hard earned money away and giving it to big global corporations?



my children and grandchildren shouldn’t be saddled with the costs of your corporate welfare.
Let the cruise lines fail. New ones will pop up when the demand for them comes back. Free market, right? Why are republicans so insistent in turning this Country into a welfare state for corporations and Trump cronies?
 
It's sad that people like @Heathme would rather give corporations billions in handouts all to hurt Democrats instead of passing anything that helps real Americans.

Cruise lines could fail? Let them. Why should my kids and grandkids be saddled with billions in debt? Oh, because Heath just wants to hurt Democrats and give his daddy issues a win? Sad!
 
The Thriller said:
It's sad that people like @Heathme would rather give corporations billions in handouts all to hurt Democrats instead of passing anything that helps real Americans.

Cruise lines could fail? Let them. Why should my kids and grandkids be saddled with billions in debt? Oh, because Heath just wants to hurt Democrats and give his daddy issues a win? Sad!
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Well, for one, we're talking about loans. The U.S. government made significant money off the auto "bailouts." It was all paid back plus interest. The factories stayed open, people had jobs, the associated supporting industry kept afloat.

I mean I get it, and I also support strings that require them to keep their employees, but some amount of loans are a good idea.
 
Wtf is Nancy Pelosi .. she’s gonna go down in history as a grandstanding toxic piece of crap.

All your politicians on both sides are garbage. Our opposition leader yesterday gave a great speech that while his side would push strongly for certain issues in whatever stimulus package we’re coming up with, that this isn’t the time for haggling and they would support whatever the government wanted to do.

other countries politicians while far from perfect are making a pretty decent effort at constructively working together.

the American people have great spirit, the American leaders all around not so much
 
Douchebag K said:
Wtf is Nancy Pelosi .. she’s gonna go down in history as a grandstanding toxic piece of crap.

All your politicians on both sides are garbage. Our opposition leader yesterday gave a great speech that while his side would push strongly for certain issues in whatever stimulus package we’re coming up with, that this isn’t the time for haggling and they would support whatever the government wanted to do.

other countries politicians while far from perfect are making a pretty decent effort at constructively working together.

the American people have great spirit, the American leaders all around not so much
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Advocating for worker protections and paid time off is now considered “grandstanding?”

what do you think about giving Donald a $500 billion dollar slush fund?
 
Elections have consequences. If Republicans wanted Democrats to mindlessly rubber stamp their Senate bill then they shouldn't have epically lost the House in 2018. Elections have consequences and for one hope the Democrats give Republicans hell. Their bill sucks. It doesn't do enough to help workers and is a massive giveaway to corporations and Trump. Trump in his presser today asked us to "Trust in him" with the $500 billion dollar slush fund. Seriously? The House isn't going let "trust" in the most corrupt president in our nation's history. Especially with money. We all saw what he did to Ukraine.

Elections have consequences. Time for Repubs to compromise and work with us. No more closed door meetings with Mitch kicking Democrats out. Time to work for American citizens; not for Trump’s re-election campaign.
 
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@The Thriller. Nobel prize winner Paul Krugman had some good points today about the slush fund:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/23/...il&login=email&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
  • "our highest priority isn’t job creation, it’s disaster relief". Basically helping families, small businesses and the health sector.
  • The stimulus bill provides "some, but only some, of the aid Americans in distress will need". The legislation includes "poison pills, like a provision that would deny aid to many nonprofit institutions like nursing homes and group homes for the disabled. But it also includes a $500 billion slush fund for corporations that the Trump administration could allocate at its discretion, with essentially no oversight. This isn’t just terrible policy; it’s an insult to our intelligence."
  • "it would be totally out of character for this administration to allocate huge sums fairly and in the public interest"
  • "there’s also the issue of competence. Why would you give vast discretionary power to a team that utterly botched the response to the coronavirus because Trump didn’t want to hear bad news?".
  • "right now Republicans seem dead set on exploiting a crisis their own president helped create by his refusal to take the pandemic seriously".
 
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