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Beer said:
I guess. Just seems like a fake *** robot. Another cog in the BS machine. Plus I 100% believe she was lying about Bernie telling her a woman could never become president. I mean she is a documented liar so no reason to not believe him in that situation anyways.
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Do you know of any politicians, hell any human at all, who doesn't lie? Ya, me neither

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fishonjazz said:
I find her to be intelligent, well spoken, passionate, and hard working.

I agree she is bland. It's one of the things I like about her. I will never ever care if a president is bland. In fact I prefer it. Their job should never be to entertain us imo.

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For sure. Bland might not be the right word. Fake and dishonest fit better. Meaning she'll say whatever just to appease whomever she is talking to. Even if there is no truth behind it. I'm certainly not saying she has to be a dick head like Trump, but she's so plastic and so fake. IMO at least.
 
fishonjazz said:
I find her to be intelligent, well spoken, passionate, and hard working.

I agree she is bland. It's one of the things I like about her. I will never ever care if a president is bland. In fact I prefer it. Their job should never be to entertain us imo.

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I don’t care about bland, either. Ben Carson was my guy and was a true outsider, even more so than Trump.
 
Beer said:
I guess. Just seems like a fake *** robot. Another cog in the BS machine. Plus I 100% believe she was lying about Bernie telling her a woman could never become president. I mean she is a documented liar so no reason to not believe him in that situation anyways.
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She comes across as a bit zany, a bit flighty, a bit loose on where she stands (whether she's really a progressive or not), and generally has the same demeanor as your humorless and constantly irritated mother in law.

If Bloomberg hadn't dropped out the race, he'd be gaining real momentum right now.
 
People are exaggerating how strong political parties are. It’s just not true. Political parties have been weakening for years now. The money from outside groups and social media have severely if not critically hindered the ability for political parties to control primary elections. It’s why insurgent candidates like Obama, Trump, and Sanders have done so well.

The DNC or “establishment” didn’t end Sanders. Minorities and a growing sense that Trump wanted Sanders because he felt like he was easier to beat, is what beat Sanders.

If Biden drops out (which I’m not sure why he would) then Sanders would have as good of a shot as anyone to pick up the torch. Which is probably what’s fueling all of this “Biden dropping out” talk. There’s a segment of our population who wants to have this happen strictly for political reasons. Trumpers want it to happen because they believe they can’t beat Biden but believe that Sanders is. They can much easier to campaign against him and paintball Democrats as socialists, which helps Mcconnell maintain his majority. They know if Biden remains, it most likely will end Trump and McConnell and give Democrats a solid lock on all levels of government. Bernie Bros want it to happen because it’s May 1 and they still haven’t accepted that they lost. Which bothers me actually. Now isn’t the time to debate policy. Now is the time to unite and focus on dismantling the Trump/McConnell government. We can debate how best to get universal health care after we’ve taken Trump and Moscow Mitch out.

I think it’s going to be Biden vs Trump in the fall and it’s going to be an ugly bloodbath. Trump and his cult are only going to become more desperate and ugly. Fox News is going to continue to grasp at every straw. Social media With bad actors both foreign and domestic is going to be a massive cluster ****. And our economy with this virus is just going to be a mess. And apparently, we will also be assaulted by Bernie Bros spreading conspiracy and vitriol.

Sigh So the less instability and drama, the better imo. Hopefully we can get that soon. I’m frankly tired of all the endless drama.
 
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Catchall said:
She comes across as a bit zany, a bit flighty, a bit loose on where she stands (whether she's really a progressive or not), and generally has the same demeanor as your humorless and constantly irritated mother in law.

If Bloomberg hadn't dropped out the race, he'd be gaining real momentum right now.
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In your opinion. Don't forget to add that.

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fishonjazz said:
What about sanders?

I would love it if Warren would take his place
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Sanders is too much of a threat to the money behind the Democratic Party. Even Warren is on the edge there. I can see Warren maybe, but Sander will never have anything but a vocal minority of delegates.
 
Beer said:
Why Warren? My wife loves her too and I just don't understand it. She's bland, full of ****, fake AF, basically the semi pleasant version of Pelosi.
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She's at least serious about consumer protection and taking power away from big banks. Possibly too much so to be nominated, but I think she's on the edge.
 
fishonjazz said:
I find her to be intelligent, well spoken, passionate, and hard working.

I agree she is bland. It's one of the things I like about her. I will never ever care if a president is bland. In fact I prefer it. Their job should never be to entertain us imo.

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****ing well said. Great post @fishonjazz
 
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