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Beer said:
I guess. Just seems like a fake *** robot. Another cog in the BS machine. Plus I 100% believe she was lying about Bernie telling her a woman could never become president. I mean she is a documented liar so no reason to not believe him in that situation anyways.
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She comes across as a bit zany, a bit flighty, a bit loose on where she stands (whether she's really a progressive or not), and generally has the same demeanor as your humorless and constantly irritated mother in law.

If Bloomberg hadn't dropped out the race, he'd be gaining real momentum right now.
 
People are exaggerating how strong political parties are. It’s just not true. Political parties have been weakening for years now. The money from outside groups and social media have severely if not critically hindered the ability for political parties to control primary elections. It’s why insurgent candidates like Obama, Trump, and Sanders have done so well.

The DNC or “establishment” didn’t end Sanders. Minorities and a growing sense that Trump wanted Sanders because he felt like he was easier to beat, is what beat Sanders.

If Biden drops out (which I’m not sure why he would) then Sanders would have as good of a shot as anyone to pick up the torch. Which is probably what’s fueling all of this “Biden dropping out” talk. There’s a segment of our population who wants to have this happen strictly for political reasons. Trumpers want it to happen because they believe they can’t beat Biden but believe that Sanders is. They can much easier to campaign against him and paintball Democrats as socialists, which helps Mcconnell maintain his majority. They know if Biden remains, it most likely will end Trump and McConnell and give Democrats a solid lock on all levels of government. Bernie Bros want it to happen because it’s May 1 and they still haven’t accepted that they lost. Which bothers me actually. Now isn’t the time to debate policy. Now is the time to unite and focus on dismantling the Trump/McConnell government. We can debate how best to get universal health care after we’ve taken Trump and Moscow Mitch out.

I think it’s going to be Biden vs Trump in the fall and it’s going to be an ugly bloodbath. Trump and his cult are only going to become more desperate and ugly. Fox News is going to continue to grasp at every straw. Social media With bad actors both foreign and domestic is going to be a massive cluster ****. And our economy with this virus is just going to be a mess. And apparently, we will also be assaulted by Bernie Bros spreading conspiracy and vitriol.

Sigh So the less instability and drama, the better imo. Hopefully we can get that soon. I’m frankly tired of all the endless drama.
 
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Catchall said:
She comes across as a bit zany, a bit flighty, a bit loose on where she stands (whether she's really a progressive or not), and generally has the same demeanor as your humorless and constantly irritated mother in law.

If Bloomberg hadn't dropped out the race, he'd be gaining real momentum right now.
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In your opinion. Don't forget to add that.

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fishonjazz said:
What about sanders?

I would love it if Warren would take his place
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Sanders is too much of a threat to the money behind the Democratic Party. Even Warren is on the edge there. I can see Warren maybe, but Sander will never have anything but a vocal minority of delegates.
 
Beer said:
Why Warren? My wife loves her too and I just don't understand it. She's bland, full of ****, fake AF, basically the semi pleasant version of Pelosi.
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She's at least serious about consumer protection and taking power away from big banks. Possibly too much so to be nominated, but I think she's on the edge.
 
fishonjazz said:
I find her to be intelligent, well spoken, passionate, and hard working.

I agree she is bland. It's one of the things I like about her. I will never ever care if a president is bland. In fact I prefer it. Their job should never be to entertain us imo.

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****ing well said. Great post @fishonjazz
 
LogGrad98 said:
I think Warren would be a great choice. It's about time we had a native American in the white House
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Charles Curtis(who??), was Vice President from 1929-1933, being Herbert Hoover’s running mate. Curtis was about 3/8 Native American. His mother was Kaw, Osage, Potawatomi, and...French. On his mother’s side, he was a descendent of Chief White Plume of the Kaw nation, and Chief Pawhuska of the Osage. As an 8 year old in 1868, he survived an attack by 100 Cheyanne warriors on the Kaw reservation in Kansas.

A heartbeat away....https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Curtis
 
Yikes... imagine literally any American president doing this and not paying a heavy political price. Clinton, Bush, and Obama would’ve been torn to shreds.



my goodness... just think on the nonsense our media has focused on in the last few years.

Bernie said something about Cuba 40 years ago, Hillary called racists, deplorables, and Obama wore a tan suit... the stuff that the media focuses on Democrats for and the nonstop crazy from trump that they ignore is appalling.

it’s really frustrating to me the nonsense trump gets away with because our media is obsessed with this false notion of “balance.” Sure, Bernie’s comments about Cuba were poorly thought out. But the obvious intellectual and moral black hole that occupies the White House should consume 99 percent of our media’s coverage.
 
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Red said:
Charles Curtis(who??), was Vice President from 1929-1933, being Herbert Hoover’s running mate. Curtis was about 3/8 Native American. His mother was Kaw, Osage, Potawatomi, and...French. On his mother’s side, he was a descendent of Chief White Plume of the Kaw nation, and Chief Pawhuska of the Osage. As an 8 year old in 1868, he survived an attack by 100 Cheyanne warriors on the Kaw reservation in Kansas.

A heartbeat away....https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Curtis
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Actual lineage doesn't matter. It only matters how one identifies. This is the modern day where everything is only what anyone pretends it is.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Actual lineage doesn't matter. It only matters how one identifies. This is the modern day where everything is only what anyone pretends it is.
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By that, if you mean how you are raised matters more than what your bloodline is, absolutely.
 
The Thriller said:
Yikes... imagine literally any American president doing this and not paying a heavy political price. Clinton, Bush, and Obama would’ve been torn to shreds.



my goodness... just think on the nonsense our media has focused on in the last few years.

Bernie said something about Cuba 40 years ago, Hillary called racists, deplorables, and Obama wore a tan suit... the stuff that the media focuses on Democrats for and the nonstop crazy from trump that they ignore is appalling.

it’s really frustrating to me the nonsense trump gets away with because our media is obsessed with this false notion of “balance.” Sure, Bernie’s comments about Cuba were poorly thought out. But the obvious intellectual and moral black hole that occupies the White House should consume 99 percent of our media’s coverage.
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Yeah, that was odd.
 
Beer said:
Why Warren? My wife loves her too and I just don't understand it. She's bland, full of ****, fake AF, basically the semi pleasant version of Pelosi.
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Picking candidates based off all this ********. Lol.


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LogGrad98 said:
Actual lineage doesn't matter. It only matters how one identifies. This is the modern day where everything is only what anyone pretends it is.
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It’s true that candidates have been faking it more than ever since the advent of TV. It is all just marketing, after all. Just the selling of a president. And people select their favorite based on emotion more often than reason. Perfect for a marketing pitch. People have always sold themselves of course, and slung the bs to do so, TV just made it possible to appeal to potential buyers on a grand scale.
 


Not sure trump going down this aisle is a winning solution.

the alternative is to accuse his family of exploiting Biden’s position to enrich itself. Which... isn’t a winning solution either.

I guess trump could always go on his record, 70,000+ dead and 30 percent unemployment
 
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