Coronavirus

[Beer]

What the hell are you talking about? No they were/are NOT! The very early data might have been unreliable(China) and outlier'ish(Italy), but pretty much the whole world that followed was following very similar curves until they took measures. How the **** can you call them worthless? This is preposterous. They had problems and the input was not great initially, because we had never gone through anything like this in modern history, but IMO a lot of the models were quite useful and instrumental in actually limiting the spread.

Now I would like to see the new models and analysis after this whole thing is over and all the data is in. I want to see some serious analysis on the measures.

What measure accounts for how large of a portion of the decrease in transmission? Were some of the measures an overkill? Were some of them underestimated? I want to see what strategies for combating future epidemics will arise from this.

Even now it is completely unreliable. Faulty data is being put in. I'm not sure how you are supposed to trust models with wildly inaccurate data being used to build it out. The rash decisions made off of fictional numbers at the beginning of this will be known as one of the biggest blunders of modern times.

Yes, the measures were absolute overkill. It should have been sick and old stay home and stay away from everyone as much as possible, everyone else focus on being sanitary and wearing masks as much as possible. But now we've got an unemployment **** show to deal with for the next 5 years.

 

[stitches]

Even now it is completely unreliable. Faulty data is being put in. I'm not sure how you are supposed to trust models with wildly inaccurate data being used to build it out. The rash decisions made off of fictional numbers at the beginning of this will be known as one of the biggest blunders of modern times.

What are the fictional numbers at the beginning? Are you doubting the numbers coming from Italy? France? Germany? Spain? Most of Europe? The US, Canada? South Korea? Singapore? What is the data that is wildly inaccurate that you are referring to? FICTIONAL?

If anything the problem with the initial Chinese data was that it UNDERESTIMATED and underreported the problem, not that it overestimated the gravity of the situation.

 

[Miggs]

It’s been twelve days, not three weeks since Georgia re-opened, moron.

 

[Miggs]

I don't think you're quite understanding what I'm saying.

I'm not saying, everybody back, just like before! I'm talking about a slow re-opening.

And yes, it is about the death rate. We were ordered, forced, to shut down to prevent people from dying. To prevent the overflow of hospitals. And now? Hospitals are practically empty. We've found out it's not as lethal as we thought. Almost every model has been exponentially wrong. And yet we sit, and wait. And wait. And wait.

Exponentially wrong? What in the holy hell are you talking about? We’re at 84,000+ deaths. We’re at 900+ on the day with 25 states, 3 territories and other entities still to report. Over 11,000 new cases today with all those states still to report. Numbers are going down. In NY. They’re basically going up in the rest of the country. Trump himself last week said to expect 3,000 deaths a day by June 1.

And all this despite restrictions over the last seven to eight weeks. But yes, hospitals are empty. Like wtf are you even talking about?

And give it another 10-15 days. All those states who opened up. Forget about it. The numbers should be worse there than they are today.

It’s not like, “Hey! Only 84,000 deaths, not one or two million like that moron Fauci said.” The game’s not over yet. Hell, the first quarter might not be over yet.

 

[stitches]

It’s been twelve days, not three weeks since Georgia re-opened, moron.

It also doesn't take into account what part of the state has actually "reopened". You can open and huge portions of the population act as if nothing is open. I'd like to see some data about traffic and economic activity. For example, take a look at the traffic and mobility data for Sweden vs Norway or other countries in the region. It shows that even though there are no official restrictions in Sweden, people act a lot like there are restrictions.

https://www.google.com/covid19/mobility/

The mobily report for Georgia looks incredibly similar to mobility report for most states that still have restrictions. This means... the people are really not all out and about right now and the state is really not back up for business.

 

[Miggs]

True.

 

[candrew]

Texas had 1000+ new cases 5 days in a row.

And per capita, they do about the least amount of testing in the country.

 

[Avery]

It also doesn't take into account what part of the state has actually "reopened". You can open and huge portions of the population act as if nothing is open. I'd like to see some data about traffic and economic activity. For example, take a look at the traffic and mobility data for Sweden vs Norway or other countries in the region. It shows that even though there are no official restrictions in Sweden, people act a lot like there are restrictions.

https://www.google.com/covid19/mobility/

The mobily report for Georgia looks incredibly similar to mobility report for most states that still have restrictions. This means... the people are really not all out and about right now and the state is really not back up for business.

It's also not going to be a complete 180 when two weeks is suddenly up. Any spikes will take longer to materialize as it surfaces and spreads. Realistically, we won't get a true bearing on how GA is doing until June.

I hope there are no spikes - nobody wins the longer this pandemic goes on.

 

[Jeditiger]

If only there were ways to make the pandemic end sooner.... I dunno, things like social distancing and wearing a face mask when around others. If these twits who are protesting the guidelines would adhere to them then this could all be over sooner! But thanks to their own dumbassery all they're doing is extending it. But no, they want their "convenience" back. Let there be deaths and to hell with the rest of us. By gawd they want to eat their Big Mouth Burgers and guzzle their Presidente Margaritas AT Chili's dammit!

 

[Red]

Here is the opening statement that Dr. Rick Bright will deliver to the House Committee Thursday morning.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/13/politics/read-rick-bright-house-opening-statement/index.html

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/05/13/politics/rick-bright-testimony-congress/index.html

(CNN)Dr. Rick Bright, the ousted director of a key federal office charged with developing medical countermeasures, will testify before Congress on Thursday that the Trump administration was unprepared for the coronavirus pandemic and warn that the the US will face "unprecedented illness and fatalities" without additional preparations.

"Our window of opportunity is closing. If we fail to develop a national coordinated response, based in science, I fear the pandemic will get far worse and be prolonged, causing unprecedented illness and fatalities," Bright is expected to say Thursday, according to his prepared testimony obtained by CNN. "Without clear planning and implementation of the steps that I and other experts have outlined, 2020 will be darkest winter in modern history."

 

[JazzGal]

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/may/12/kareem-abdul-jabbar-covid-19-donald-trump

Kareem, still dominating.

Oh, if only.


This might have a little validity if Trump was newly installed as president. But he has had three years in which he did not prepare for a pandemic and update stockpiles either. And he made decisions which made it more difficult to handle the pandemic. At some point, when is it on him and not the previous administration? His term is nearly over. Shouldn't he start blaming himself for the administration's failures? Oh right, that's never gonna happen.