2020 Annual All-Time NBA Draft

[Thee Jazz Fan]

@spycam1 is OTC

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

Ok so far we got this:

PG - Chris Paul
SG - Drazen Petrovic
SF - John Havlicek
PF - Karl Malone
C - Rudy Gobert

PG - Kyrie Irving
SG - Jeff Hornacek
SF - TBD
PF - Andre Kirilenko
C - Joel Embiid

Geez if we meet, I might even vote against myself. Lol

 

[Elizah Huge]

I just want to say the recency bias is horrible and there have been some really bad picks made this year. If Spy picks who he should here he’s just widening the lead he already had on all of us. Dude shouldn’t even be on the board.

 

[Beer]

I just want to say the recency bias is horrible and there have been some really bad picks made this year. If Spy picks who he should here he’s just widening the lead he already had on all of us. Dude shouldn’t even be on the board.

I'm just not sure how Bob Cousy would have faired against modern players.

 

[Elizah Huge]

I'm just not sure how Bob Cousy would have faired against modern players.

Sounds like a personal problem. Like Khris Middleton? Zion Williamson? Klay in the top-25. Its all hilarious to me. Just terrible picks.

 

[Beer]

Sounds like a personal problem. Like Khris Middleton? Zion Williamson? Klay in the top-25. Its all hilarious to me. Just terrible picks.

Possibly don't disagree with those picks depending on who you are referencing. I'm an old game hater though.

 

[LogGrad98]

Great quality with Paul and Malone based on where you drafted them. Gobert is tough. I think a couple rounds later would’ve felt more appropriate. I don’t know.

I don't want to under-value a 2x DPOY (should be 3x) who was in the top 5 in the league in offensive efficiency both of those years. At the time I didn't see anything that much better that fit my plan.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

Sounds like a personal problem. Like Khris Middleton? Zion Williamson? Klay in the top-25. Its all hilarious to me. Just terrible picks.

Agreed. I got killed on here for drafting Cousy in the 9th round one year.

we should do a pre-80’s draft. I think that would be fun and pretty fair.

 

[gandalfe]

Agreed. I got killed on here for drafting Cousy in the 9th round one year.

we should do a pre-80’s draft. I think that would be fun and pretty fair.

We did a Legends last year, only people who are no longer playing.

I ran it, and won it, I believe. No correlation, I actually tried to handicap myself, but I ended up with Russell, Magic, and Jordan. You can see why I won.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

We did a Legends last year, only people who are no longer playing.

I ran it, and won it, I believe. No correlation, I actually tried to handicap myself, but I ended up with Russell, Magic, and Jordan. You can see why I won.

But still your going to draft mostly players from mid 80’s, 90’s, 2000’s.

something we can try is maybe forcing drafters to be obligated to draft so many players from each era, I don’t know.

 

[LogGrad98]

I'm just not sure how Bob Cousy would have faired against modern players.

I think we have to be careful with this kind of comparison. I mean, these guys were all-world athletes in their eras, all the while most of them smoked, the training facilities, although cutting edge at that time, were YMCA gyms compared to modern facilities. They didn't have the benefits of modern nutritionists, 60+ years of basketball knowledge and experience in coaching. They didn't have people who specialized in nothing but perfecting their shot, or footwork, or what-have-you. Give any of them these modern advantages and how much better would they have been?

Also I am not a fan of the "but the league was small, there was no competition" argument. I would actually argue their competition was much stronger. The talent at the time was concentrated into fewer teams. They faced multiple all-star and all-league level players in every single game, not just maybe 1 or 2 with a bunch of role players around them. Now the talent is diluted. Imagine how much stronger the teams would be if we shrink the league today to say 20 teams. Or even 25.

Imagine Wilt with modern gym facilities, trainers, nutritionists, coaches. Summer skill programs. He would have been Shaq-and-a-half. He would likely have been far more dominant than anything we have seen.

So if we are comparing eras and thinking about dropping them all into the same arena, we have to give them the credit of the same inputs and acknowledge that the players of previous eras would just be that much better as the support facilities and staff around them improved.

 

[Beer]

But still your going to draft mostly players from mid 80’s, 90’s, 2000’s.

something we can try is maybe forcing drafters to be obligated to draft so many players from each era, I don’t know.

Trying to mesh and compare players from the 60's and today is like trying to combine cricket and MLB players. It's just not possible. They are pretty much different sports.