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Tough Day To Be In Law Enforcement

No reasonable person wants violence or destruction and definitely not death. I haven't seen people here condoning it. But some, myself included, have pointed that maybe there is more to some of it and maybe we should look at each situation more carefully before making judgements as a whole. Many have also pointed out that getting to this point is the bigger issue. People are condoning the protests because they went violent but not society for oppressing for so long, not police for racist violence that is beyond just a few bad cops, and not cops who are antagonizing protestors into violence. If you're saddened about the terrible things happening during the protests where was your grief the rest of your life when much worse atrocities were happening to your neighbors and friends?

One thing is for sure it should never have come to any of this. The fact that even peaceful protests are needing to happen is beyond terrible.

There are many examples of non peaceful protests leading to positive changes. I just hope this one does so we don't have to have anymore.

Yes, there are negative things people are doing on the protest side of things. But nothing in comparison to what's happening on the other side and it's not really close.

Could this protest have gone better? Definitely. Could it have been peaceful and made a difference? Maybe. Was it the protesters fault for all the violence? Definitely not. Where there ****** people on both sides that made things worse? Yes.

I wish no violence happened. I wish no violence will happen going forward.

What we can all do is try to make sure we don't let this happen again. It's beyond time to make a change that lasts.
 
The fact is more or less every white person is racist in America. It's part of our culture and it's human nature. Racist doesn't mean you are a bad person it simply means you make judgments based on race. To me there's 3 types of people. People who see it and try to correct it and be better, people who are ignorant to it for various reasons, and the terrible people who embrace it and think it's okay. I would like to think the last one is a small minority and that lots are in the other two groups. I hope everyone can move to seeing it and trying to correct it.
 
BabyPeterzz said:
For my experience, I don’t see it as a “give and take” situation. I’m not that insecure with myself or my opinions. I have decided to listen to what protesters are saying and trying to listen and internalize. Not judge or point fingers. I can’t understand their experience. I try my best to listen and ask questions.
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Do you see many people judging and pointing fingers at protestors? Or rioters/looters? Or are they the same? Is privilege the only explanation for being able to make such a distinction? Does not making a distinction have a cost? And, if so, who largely bears the burden of that cost?
 
Ron Mexico said:
If only there was still a party that believed in that...
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I wish, too. The best we can get is someone who nobody wants to work with, thus preventing the national-scale righting reflex that exacerbates so many of our problems through intervention, but satiates our appetite for feeling like we've "done something." In another thread HH mentioned Dennis Rodman running for president, and I was serious about saying I'd vote for that.
 
infection said:
Do you see many people judging and pointing fingers at protestors? Or rioters/looters? Or are they the same? Is privilege the only explanation for being able to make such a distinction? Does not making a distinction have a cost? And, if so, who largely bears the burden of that cost?
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Yer asking the wrong guy.


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Saint Cy of JFC said:
Bottom line is police need to be heavily defunded.
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I would argue otherwise. I think we should pay to attract talent, not under pay for losers. Let’s take this job seriously and give them the resources they need to perform the job we’re asking them to do.

More training, screening, counseling, specialization, and implementation.


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BabyPeterzz said:
Yer asking the wrong guy.


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Well, you were responding to my post. Follow up clarity on whether you’re seeing people condemning protestors, as your response to me implied, seemed like a fair question to ask the person making the statement.
 
JazzGal said:
Unfortunately, until a majority of white people acknowledge racism, better understand its cost to society, and want it to end, it will likely not end. I wish that wasn't the way it is going to have to happen, but it is. It is tough to find the line between being an ally and being in the way, but I hope we all try to find that balance.

I still do not understand how after millenia of existence, human beings are still collectively awful and cannot figure out how to function as a society of equals.
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It's just that some people are more equal than others.
 
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