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Conley For Horford Discussion

Handlogten's Heros said:
I think he'd be helpful and would look good in our system. I just think we look to more cost effective means for all of our issues... and honestly its justified. If we felt we really needed 1st round picks then maybe you can justify this kind of investment... but even then it feels like there are cheaper ways to get there.

If we move Conley I really think it is to reduce salary and open up some cap flexibility to sign other guys. Maybe we land a lower cost player that is also expiring... Conley to the Knicks in that type of scenario would be the most likely "target". Unless we signed someone that was pretty decent I'm not sure we'd be better than if we just brought Mike off the bench. I think he has a lot more value when he isn't sharing the floor with Ingles, DM, and Bojan... I want Ingles and Royce in the starting lineup next year... Mike and JC can wreck fools off the bench.
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Jazz are not a championship caliber team with Joe and Royce starting. Having them come off the bench would immediate strengthen our bench and the Jazz would be contenders if they could fill their positions with better players. Yea I know that is easy to but harder to accomplish. Joe is getting slower and older. He is inconsistent and defers to our scorers too much. If either Joe or Royce are have a hot game then keep playing them. Having those two along with Clarkson would make for a tough second unit. I like Richardson too but not enough to take on Horford's contract. Even the thought of adding Richardson and picks a 1st and NY second round pick isn't enough for me to take Horford's contract.

I say NO to this deal but I also see that you are on the right direction with Jazz needing to get better, younger, and more athletic. The fact that the Jazz lack draft picks right now is why I get upset when they always include them in trades when most teams don't. We give out 1st round picks like they are candy sometimes. Jazz need to really hit at least a triple in this draft and fill a role either at Power Forward or SF. Then they need to keep Clarkson and add an above average player in FA. I will let the experts decide how to do this? lol.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I think he'd be helpful and would look good in our system. I just think we look to more cost effective means for all of our issues... and honestly its justified. If we felt we really needed 1st round picks then maybe you can justify this kind of investment... but even then it feels like there are cheaper ways to get there.

If we move Conley I really think it is to reduce salary and open up some cap flexibility to sign other guys. Maybe we land a lower cost player that is also expiring... Conley to the Knicks in that type of scenario would be the most likely "target". Unless we signed someone that was pretty decent I'm not sure we'd be better than if we just brought Mike off the bench. I think he has a lot more value when he isn't sharing the floor with Ingles, DM, and Bojan... I want Ingles and Royce in the starting lineup next year... Mike and JC can wreck fools off the bench.
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We’ll definitely go a lower-cost route. And we will remain a solid tier below the contenders.
 
Bawse Dawg said:
Dude really did screw us. And gave up a much better gig. Hayward was a perfect fit for what our roster ended up being with Mitchell.

We would be legit contenders if he had just stayed. We already had Mitchell on the roster when he signed with Boston.

Lose-Lose situation for all involved.
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it’s funny how all-star nominations were on Hayseed’s mind. Now he’s buried behind all-stars on his own team. Good riddance.
 
LoPo said:
Which is why they give up assets to move him. Richardson, Zhaire Smith, draft picks, etc. These are all things we need in addition to a quality backup big.

I don't think there is a market for trading Conley where we dump his salary. The Knicks are the most likely, but why do they do that? Unless new coach Thibs has a secret crush on Conley, why does he set the tone in NY by adding $35 million expiring Conley? There might be a couple scenarios where we trade him for equal salary or a little savings, but I'm not sure we will get value in return (guys like Batum).
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They need competent pg play to help their young guys and hopefully provide a little more success. Would also keep their options open for the next couple FA periods. They need to rebuild the culture there and get better... Mike would be good for that. CP3 might be their first choice but OKC may not move him and he might have one too many years left on that deal. NY will end up blowing space on Portis/Randle types again while they keep their flexibility... I'm 100% sure Mike would be a better value prop for them. They may be able to steal a Fred Van Vleet so that route may not open up.
 
NAOS said:
We’ll definitely go a lower-cost route. And we will remain a solid tier below the contenders.
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Yeah... and in their defense I'm not sure there is a deal that pushes us into that tier... so why not go less spendy.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
They need competent pg play to help their young guys and hopefully provide a little more success. Would also keep their options open for the next couple FA periods. They need to rebuild the culture there and get better... Mike would be good for that. CP3 might be their first choice but OKC may not move him and he might have one too many years left on that deal. NY will end up blowing space on Portis/Randle types again while they keep their flexibility... I'm 100% sure Mike would be a better value prop for them. They may be able to steal a Fred Van Vleet so that route may not open up.
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If NY completely strikes out in free agency, maybe this holds true. I would love for it to. I'd love to poach Ntilikina and shed some cap. I just don't believe NY will go this route with a new coach and front office.
 
NAOS said:
I’m curious if we can find another prospect to play behind Tony Bradley. That would make the off-season a huge success.
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So I wouldn't say I've come around on TB but I'm mostly of the opinion he is fine as a backup 5. I'm looking more at the 3/4 types. It's kinda why I want to see a little Brantley... between him and Niang maybe that's enough?

If I was DL I'd just want to know where to use our limited resources. I think there is a world where Brantley proves to give us something at the 4 and pairs well with TB and we move Mike to the bench and add a guy like Shaq Harrison to soak up any leftover minutes at the wing and fill in at 2-3 spots as injuries dictate.

I'd love a different look at the 5 at backup... Meyers Leonard or equivalent that could hit some threes and just gives us a changeup sometimes... wouldn't be earth shattering so nbd if it doesn't happen.
 
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