Players only meeting.

[Ujfanatic]

For everyone questioning whether the boycott will do anything, the answer is simple: it is up to us. We, as fans, are the target of this boycott. Not the team owners, or tv stations, but us. If we want basketball back in our lives then it is up to us to do something about it.

If you love a sport primarily played by black men but do not care about the lives of black people that is a problem. If you love basketball like I do, you must care about the people who make that possible. If they are telling us this issue is more important then playing basketball then we need to listen. If they tell us No Justice, No Peace, we need to understand that we do not get the peace that comes from escaping into our fandom until there is justice. How long that takes depends on us. Societies can change rapidly with enough pressure.

I am a white 40-year-old man who grew up in Utah and have loved the Jazz since I was 5 years old. I stand with the Utah Jazz and am ready to do whatever I can to support, protect, and defend the communities of these amazing people and athletes.

 

[NAOS]

I think if trump looses than there will be a bunch of his cult that tries their hardest to sow discord and chaos in order to make Biden, "the left", "the liberals", and the Dems look bad and make it appear that Trump wasn't the problem.

I hope I wrong

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Brace yourself for the founding of Trump TV. Trump will be the head of some kind of media monster, which will fill the void created after Ailes left Fox and put it into its current limbo. From there, Trump will ceaselessly churn out hate and division to a ready and waiting audience.

 

[Avery]

 

[SCS]

Strong argument there.

Especially in light of the idea that somehow, you're being punished here by players speaking out against injustice. That's not racist at all.

LMAO I never said anywhere I was being punished. I said that it would hurt innocent fans if basketball was not played. There is a vast difference between being hurt and being punished. Also its convenient how you ignored the fact that I said I support whatever decision they make. Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit. Stop being a clown. And you better damn well stop insinuating I'm racist. Thats not something I will f****** tolerate.

 

[candrew]

Brace yourself for the founding of Trump TV. Trump will be the head of some kind of media monster, which will fill the void created after Ailes left Fox and put it into its current limbo. From there, Trump will ceaselessly churn out hate and division to a ready and waiting audience.

I think that was his plan if he lost the 16 election.

I think his plan if he loses in 2020 is to do a Trump World Tour and sell whatever knowledge he acquired as president to the highest bidder.....Russia, China, Saudi Arabia....you name it.

 

[whatthe]

I would take 7 days off for each bullet then resume play. It's not perfect but it makes a hard hitting statement

 

[stormkoopacv03]

People are sick of hearing it will ‘take time’. How many centuries do we expect for minorities to wait?

Yeah, I'm still waiting for my people to get their lands back too, and not stuck in this so called reservation. But that probably won't ever happen any time soon.

 

[Avery]

 

[whatthe]

How many people are racist that would admit they are racist? How many act racist but don't realize it? Are there different levels of it? And what is realistic to change as a society? I don't want canned answers or crappy finger pointing because it hasn't worked.

 

[candrew]

I think there were dozens of players who didn't want to go to the bubble to begin with. The Locked on Nuggets dude said that there were several guys on the Denver team that didn't want to play. I think many other players showed up only because they didn't want to let their teammates down (you can probably include Donovan in that group). And some just plain needed the money.

And I'm willing to bet the ranch the only reason LeBron was for it was so he can add another ring to his legacy (and I'm mostly a fan of LeBron). If this was last season when LeBron was hurt he would have been against it and we'd probably never have a re-start/playoffs.

And the optics are horrible. A bunch of guys (mostly black) sequestered in a bubble in the deep south and left with nothing to do but perform for the public.

 

[Jazz4ever]

LMAO I never said anywhere I was being punished. I said that it would hurt innocent fans if basketball was not played. There is a vast difference between being hurt and being punished. Also its convenient how you ignored the fact that I said I support whatever decision they make. Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit. Stop being a clown. And you better damn well stop insinuating I'm racist. Thats not something I will f****** tolerate.

Jimles is pathetic trying to put words in your mouth. He wants you to play the part, don't bite.

 

[whatthe]

Truthfully everyone has some amount of racism in them. So if you want to fight racism then how can you fight it? Do you start saying notions and cloudy ideas or do you put large groups unfairly into groups? We can't control it 100% but you can be fair. You can be just. You can be respectful.

 

[Utesnjazz]

Lmao

 

[NUMBERICA]

I mean, I get it and support it but punishing the league and it's nba fans by expressing a complete walkout isn't the answer.

It’s not punishment. It’s using their platform to elevate important social issues and as leverage to pressure institutions to do more.

To think this is PUNISHMENT really reeks of privilege. Don’t mean to hammer on you over what might just be a bad word choice but come on.

 

[NUMBERICA]

I'm all for players doing whatever they want to do. Everyone has free will.

However, I think NBA players might have a false sense of how much influence they have over our country, culture, and government. A police officer making an extremely bad decision and potentially killing someone isn't going to change because NBA players decided not to play a game.

Any changes NBA players, or the public in general, would like to see regarding police brutality, criminal justice reform, etc. are not going to be solved overnight. There are 300+ million people living together in this country. Police shootings, even unjustified ones, are not going to stop anytime in the near future. The goal should be to minimize and reduce these over time. If NBA players refrain from playing until all unjustified police shootings are eliminated...........they aren't going to be playing during this lifetime.

So they shouldn’t try? Why should anyone, then?

This one night of action has financial implications in the tens of millions of dollars and has tens of millions of people talking.

You think these adult men that have done more tonight to address this issue than the collective lifetimes of everyone on this board are naive. I think your point is weak and you are out of your depth.

None of this is a game.

 

[JimLes]

LMAO I never said anywhere I was being punished. I said that it would hurt innocent fans if basketball was not played.

But they're not innocent. None of us are innocent. We are all complicit in this. If majority of people weren't racist, then we wouldn't have the society we have right now. Then we would've had change long ago. We wouldn't have people complaining about how basketball might get canceled.

Again, it's nice for you to pretend that you're not racist, like the bar for being racist is thinking black people are subhuman and ought to be exterminated. Meanwhile, you "just want to watch a game [you] enjoy." It'd be a shame if a fight for equality got in your way, right?

 

[Utesnjazz]

You getting this Gail? You they are fed up with your ****! No more talk they demand real action!

LMAO
I might need to resign up for twitter just for this. Thanks for posting

 

[NUMBERICA]

I love how people criticize athletes for living vapid lives and doing nothing meaningful, then when athletes actually do something meaningful, they criticize them.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I know several people that have stopped watching basketball because of the

How many people are racist that would admit they are racist? How many act racist but don't realize it? Are there different levels of it? And what is realistic to change as a society? I don't want canned answers or crappy finger pointing because it hasn't worked.

Its funny over the last few months I've had so many conversations where the guys claim not to be racist but also won't watch the NBA anymore because of BLM being "forced down their throats". "They should just play" etc etc.

I ain't heard those same people complaining about when the NFL wears pink for breast cancer awareness...

Its been incredibly disappointing and eye opening.

 

[NUMBERICA]

LMAO I never said anywhere I was being punished. I said that it would hurt innocent fans if basketball was not played. There is a vast difference between being hurt and being punished. Also its convenient how you ignored the fact that I said I support whatever decision they make. Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit. Stop being a clown. And you better damn well stop insinuating I'm racist. Thats not something I will f****** tolerate.

... “hurt”?