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Either Conley goes or DL you choose...

Fire DL

  • Yes

    Votes: 5 14.3%

  • No

    Votes: 13 37.1%

  • Trade Conley and keep DL

    Votes: 14 40.0%

  • Keep Conley and Fire DL

    Votes: 3 8.6%
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    35
416Klawzz

416Klawzz

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Obviously DL stunted our teams potential by trading for Conley. In the midst he has shackled our ability to sign free agents based on Conley's contract, he also gave key assets in the acquisition. He also made bone head moves in signing Davis and Green
 
UtahJazz32 said:
Obviously DL stunted our teams potential by trading for Conley. In the midst he has shackled our ability to sign free agents based on Conley's contract, he also gave key assets in the acquisition. He also made bone head moves in signing Davis and Green
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You can’t criticize DL for these moves. Most here loved the trade for Conley and those other players mentioned. This might be a credible bread had it been started by someone that had actually hated these deals to begin with.
 
Well, its not like we're locked into Conley long term. I think DL had all the right intentions but it backfired. His real failure is in the draft. How many PG's did we draft that sucked how many good PG's we could have drafted.
 
DL is good at what he does but has made some serious blunders. He has generally found ways to redeem himself (trading Trey Lyles for Donovan, trading Exum for Clarkson, busting wildly on Burke but getting Gobert) so I hope he pulls another rabbit out of his ***.
 
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prodigy said:
We kind of lucked into Donovan. Why anyone would want trey lyles is beyond me. Everyone involved with the drafting process should have been evaluated themselves.
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Yeah at the time Denver had Gary Harris coming off a spectacular year, and Jamal Murray freshly drafted last year. That's a smattering of 6'3"/6'4" combo guards and probably evaluated DM as slightly under them being shorter. You can see where they were coming from in trading the pick, but seems like they sure could have done better than Trey Lyles :D
 
prodigy said:
Well, its not like we're locked into Conley long term. I think DL had all the right intentions but it backfired. His real failure is in the draft. How many PG's did we draft that sucked how many good PG's we could have drafted.
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The real mistake was not seeing Don as a pg from the beginning. I was wrong too, but at the time, I thought he was 6-3, not 6-1.
 
Thee Idiotic Minivan K said:
The real mistake was not seeing Don as a pg from the beginning. I was wrong too, but at the time, I thought he was 6-3, not 6-1.
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Jesus y’all. He functionally is 6-3. With the remeasurements (where they decided to go exclusively by height without shoes which is a fundamental departure from what they had always gone by) take 1-2 inches off every player in the NBA prior to this year. That **** was asinine.
 
Thee Idiotic Minivan K said:
You can’t criticize DL for these moves. Most here loved the trade for Conley and those other players mentioned. This might be a credible bread had it been started by someone that had actually hated these deals to begin with.
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I disagree. Many of us hated it and were vocal about it even back when it was floated as an idea at the mid-season trade deadline the previous season. I do not believe the majority here ever felt it was a good trade.
 
NUMBERICA said:
DL is good at what he does but has made some serious blunders. He has generally found ways to redeem himself (trading Trey Lyles for Donovan, trading Exum for Clarkson) so I hope he pulls another rabbit out of his ***.
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[Fingers crossed]

Trading Conley for OPJ.

[/Fingers crossed]
 
Thee Idiotic Minivan K said:
The real mistake was not seeing Don as a pg from the beginning. I was wrong too, but at the time, I thought he was 6-3, not 6-1.
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This... I started a thread about it last year and got a **** ton of lolz. “You want him to be Westbrook?” I just want him to have space and be the smallest person in our starting lineup. Turns out length is really important to defense. He was thought of as a SG because we had Ricky but the ideal way for him to be successful is as the primary scorer/creator and as the smallest guy on the court defensively. Helps hide him or not put him in situations where he is at a big size disadvantage.
 
According to Tony Jones of the Athletic the Jazz are planning on keeping Conley for next season (who knows how they REALLY feel). But also according to Jones, the Jazz are willing to go into luxury tax territory to do what needs to be done.
 
Joncolton said:
According to Tony Jones of the Athletic the Jazz are planning on keeping Conley for next season (who knows how they REALLY feel). But also according to Jones, the Jazz are willing to go into luxury tax territory to do what needs to be done.
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I believe him on the first part... Actions speak louder than words on the second part.
Every owner in sports always says they will spend what is necessary to do what it takes... every. owner. Why would they say anything else?

They will then feed you the line that nothing good enough was out there and that’s why they didn’t go into the tax. I will come on and point out like 15 things we could have done... then other posters will say that free agents didn’t want to come here and “you don’t know what they tried to do”. Many of you will believe them that there was nothing good out there... they will tell you they want to be aggressive in the buyout market or they are stockpiling assets for an awesome trade... rinse repeat.

For years we’ve heard this... while the team operated at the absolute ****ing salary floor. I will believe the “we will pay the tax” line when it happens.

I don’t think I’d be willing to go into the tax tbh... the world is upside down and I’d want to conserve cash. So I don’t blame them this time.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
They will then feed you the line that nothing good enough was out there and that’s why they didn’t go into the tax. I will come on and point out like 15 things we could have done... then other posters will say that free agents didn’t want to come here and “you don’t know what they tried to do”. Many of you will believe them that there was nothing good out there... they will tell you they want to be aggressive in the buyout market or they are stockpiling assets for an awesome trade... rinse repeat.
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You've just encapsulated Jazz nation in one paragraph.

But you also forgot to mention that 3-4 years later someone from the FO will casually leak how we almost traded for _____, or how _____ was wanting to sign.
 
Joncolton said:
According to Tony Jones of the Athletic the Jazz are planning on keeping Conley for next season (who knows how they REALLY feel). But also according to Jones, the Jazz are willing to go into luxury tax territory to do what needs to be done.
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just feel sad that we might be going into luxury tax territory because of a league's top 20 PG who's never won anything in his career.
 
infection said:
You've just encapsulated Jazz nation in one paragraph.

But you also forgot to mention that 3-4 years later someone from the FO will casually leak how we almost traded for _____, or how _____ was wanting to sign.
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You could put together a good team with all the guys who "were getting ready to come here":

Kyle Lowry
Blake Griffin
Drazen Petrovic
Len Bias
 
Conley. You can make a case that they should have measured Mitchell's height to realize he was only 6'1" and therefore should not have brought Conley over even if he was able to play at the same level he was playing on Memphis. But I'm still glad DL tried to make something happen rather than just sitting around and doing nothing.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
This... I started a thread about it last year and got a **** ton of lolz. “You want him to be Westbrook?” I just want him to have space and be the smallest person in our starting lineup. Turns out length is really important to defense. He was thought of as a SG because we had Ricky but the ideal way for him to be successful is as the primary scorer/creator and as the smallest guy on the court defensively. Helps hide him or not put him in situations where he is at a big size disadvantage.
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doesn't matter what size he is, you always do whatever possible to hide your franchise player on defense so he can give his all on offense. Doncic is 6'8 and jokic is 6'10 but their teams still manage to surround them with guys who can take care of all the dirty work so they can save their energies for moment when it matters.
 
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