Either Conley goes or DL you choose...

[Handlogten's Heros]

The real mistake was not seeing Don as a pg from the beginning. I was wrong too, but at the time, I thought he was 6-3, not 6-1.

This... I started a thread about it last year and got a **** ton of lolz. “You want him to be Westbrook?” I just want him to have space and be the smallest person in our starting lineup. Turns out length is really important to defense. He was thought of as a SG because we had Ricky but the ideal way for him to be successful is as the primary scorer/creator and as the smallest guy on the court defensively. Helps hide him or not put him in situations where he is at a big size disadvantage.

 

[Joncolton]

According to Tony Jones of the Athletic the Jazz are planning on keeping Conley for next season (who knows how they REALLY feel). But also according to Jones, the Jazz are willing to go into luxury tax territory to do what needs to be done.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

According to Tony Jones of the Athletic the Jazz are planning on keeping Conley for next season (who knows how they REALLY feel). But also according to Jones, the Jazz are willing to go into luxury tax territory to do what needs to be done.

I believe him on the first part... Actions speak louder than words on the second part.
Every owner in sports always says they will spend what is necessary to do what it takes... every. owner. Why would they say anything else?

They will then feed you the line that nothing good enough was out there and that’s why they didn’t go into the tax. I will come on and point out like 15 things we could have done... then other posters will say that free agents didn’t want to come here and “you don’t know what they tried to do”. Many of you will believe them that there was nothing good out there... they will tell you they want to be aggressive in the buyout market or they are stockpiling assets for an awesome trade... rinse repeat.

For years we’ve heard this... while the team operated at the absolute ****ing salary floor. I will believe the “we will pay the tax” line when it happens.

I don’t think I’d be willing to go into the tax tbh... the world is upside down and I’d want to conserve cash. So I don’t blame them this time.

 

[infection]

They will then feed you the line that nothing good enough was out there and that’s why they didn’t go into the tax. I will come on and point out like 15 things we could have done... then other posters will say that free agents didn’t want to come here and “you don’t know what they tried to do”. Many of you will believe them that there was nothing good out there... they will tell you they want to be aggressive in the buyout market or they are stockpiling assets for an awesome trade... rinse repeat.

You've just encapsulated Jazz nation in one paragraph.

But you also forgot to mention that 3-4 years later someone from the FO will casually leak how we almost traded for _____, or how _____ was wanting to sign.

 

[jom2003]

According to Tony Jones of the Athletic the Jazz are planning on keeping Conley for next season (who knows how they REALLY feel). But also according to Jones, the Jazz are willing to go into luxury tax territory to do what needs to be done.

just feel sad that we might be going into luxury tax territory because of a league's top 20 PG who's never won anything in his career.

 

[infection]

You've just encapsulated Jazz nation in one paragraph.

But you also forgot to mention that 3-4 years later someone from the FO will casually leak how we almost traded for _____, or how _____ was wanting to sign.

You could put together a good team with all the guys who "were getting ready to come here":

Kyle Lowry
Blake Griffin
Drazen Petrovic
Len Bias

 

[magic]

Conley. You can make a case that they should have measured Mitchell's height to realize he was only 6'1" and therefore should not have brought Conley over even if he was able to play at the same level he was playing on Memphis. But I'm still glad DL tried to make something happen rather than just sitting around and doing nothing.

 

[jom2003]

This... I started a thread about it last year and got a **** ton of lolz. “You want him to be Westbrook?” I just want him to have space and be the smallest person in our starting lineup. Turns out length is really important to defense. He was thought of as a SG because we had Ricky but the ideal way for him to be successful is as the primary scorer/creator and as the smallest guy on the court defensively. Helps hide him or not put him in situations where he is at a big size disadvantage.

doesn't matter what size he is, you always do whatever possible to hide your franchise player on defense so he can give his all on offense. Doncic is 6'8 and jokic is 6'10 but their teams still manage to surround them with guys who can take care of all the dirty work so they can save their energies for moment when it matters.

 

[jom2003]

Conley. You can make a case that they should have measured Mitchell's height to realize he was only 6'1" and therefore should not have brought Conley over even if he was able to play at the same level he was playing on Memphis. But I'm still glad DL tried to make something happen rather than just sitting around and doing nothing.

it's worse than doing nothing when you are incompetent because you may have done more harm than good, which is exactly the case with the Conley trade.

 

[fishonjazz]

You could put together a good team with all the guys who "were getting ready to come here":

Kyle Lowry
Blake Griffin
Drazen Petrovic
Len Bias

I feel like petrovic and bias would be too old if they were on the same team as lowry and griffin

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[gomretat]

DL is good at what he does but has made some serious blunders. He has generally found ways to redeem himself (trading Trey Lyles for Donovan, trading Exum for Clarkson, busting wildly on Burke but getting Gobert) so I hope he pulls another rabbit out of his ***.

So pretty much in the class of a good solid GM. There are bad ones but the whole draft process is a guess.

 

[416Klawzz]

Gayle should fire DL.